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Toothless..... 4 weeks 1 day ago #177497

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Probably didn't deserve to lose but we toothless dont score enough......what do you expect. Always liable to a sucker punch. Its beyond laughable now. Derby were piss poor and still we get dicked.
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 1 day ago #177500

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Good performance that. Created chances. Great strike won it. Can't have strikers who can't score. Moore hold up play good but little threat. 10 games without a goal?
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 1 day ago #177501

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No negatives from me on that performance. We are finally looking like a team, players left everything on the pitch.
Creating chances to, one goal would have probably seen 2 or 3. Their man looked offside and in the goalies line of view for the goal.
I'm gutted for Cook and all the players.
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 1 day ago #177502

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No balls in wide for Moore......Ffs cant score with back to goal 35 yds out.....wing players not good enough. It embarrassing, Cook proved yet again he's not up to it,Naismith on......then concede. He should piss off and let someone set us up encouraging players to get to by line.......Moore needs something to attack......another striker screwed over at Wigan
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 1 day ago #177503

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Happy at 0-0 as it ticked off pretty much all thats wrong with us away from home and then some bloke rifles one in
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 1 day ago #177504

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Nah. Your just being negative. On Rams TV the pundits just said an excellent away performance which Paul Cook must be delighted about. That goal worthy of winning any game. We were unlucky. 16 shots. Looked really dangerous. Lowe should have finished one on one.
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 1 day ago #177505

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I honestly believe we have the players and squad to win away from home. Unfortunately we have a manager who cant or wont.
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 1 day ago #177506

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Agree there nuneatonlatic..cook out off his depth.wish he would get fucked off.now away from a joke.
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 1 day ago #177507

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Remember!!.....Its a results business. Gave the clappers the Forest result, good ground out win but shit as entertainment ,crap to watch. Tonight for all our endeavors we got dry bummed again and same expected at Bristol Saturday. I feel for Moore cos he's the 1st one to take flack but ffs Lowe goal apart has been decidedly average,Massey shouldn't be any where near 1st team...Byrne league 1 player but hey let's blame Moore for not netting under a shit manager.
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 1 day ago #177508

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bigroy wrote:
Nah. Your just being negative. On Rams TV the pundits just said an excellent away performance which Paul Cook must be delighted about. That goal worthy of winning any game. We were unlucky. 16 shots. Looked really dangerous. Lowe should have finished one on one.
Three shots on target.
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 1 day ago #177509

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Pocession I thought they was gonna throw another ball on for us.
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 1 day ago #177510

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This season away:
Played 7
Won 0
Drawn 1
Lost 6
For 3
Against 13
Points 1

This season away plus last season away:
Played 30
Won 2
Drawn 6
Lost 22
For 25
Against 57
Points 12

Is it really bad luck?
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 1 day ago #177511

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Should be slung out 1st thing this morning. How can anyone sanction him remaining. 30 away games,different staff,2 wins shit substitutions, Geldhardt, Windass,Pilkington sat on there arses.The man proves time,and time again he's lost .He's constantly having his pants pulled down.How many teams struggling suddenly grab 3pts when we are in town ???? Derby were f@@@@@@ awful but gift horse Wigan arrive and hey presto it's back too "our home form will be our saviour ".......Please piss off and grab yourself a half season ticket for Anfield and free us from this negative, goal-less crowd shrinking drivel !!!!
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 21 hours ago #177512

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Keifer is desperate for a goal and his manager instead of giving the lad a chance by putting Garner up there with him hauls him off. We won't get many chances to play someone as bad as Derby were last night.
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 19 hours ago #177513

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Quite happy to take a point last night, then bang. Sucker punch in injury time. From what I've read, we had chances to score but didnt take them. Im not defending cook in anyway here. But in some respects, you cant blame him for his players not taking their chances when they come.
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 19 hours ago #177515

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Nuneatonlatic wrote:
I honestly believe we have the players and squad to win away from home. Unfortunately we have a manager who cant or wont.


Spot on, certain areas of the park we looked good i.e midfield, keeper played well but the crucial position of upfront let us down once again, but overall a half decent effort but with no reward.
Theres a young lad screaming to prove himself and with the game at our mercy which is rarer than do-do sh1te and what does he do ?, brings on Garner. Someone who couldn't hit a garage door with a space hopper. Possibly Pilkington for 5-10 minutes ? go and win it ?. Nope Cook thought a point will do and sadly it backfired.

In my eyes the best form of defence is attack especially when the opponents are as awful as Derby were.

Derby look to me like the team who would have been happy with just a point not us. A game like this is were we should be pushing hard for a winner. The way Cook plays Moore means he'll be dam lucky to hit half a dozen. This "Hit the big lad up top", does not work for Moore.

Away form like this means we have to beat every sod at home, no pressure on the lads there Paul .. ffs
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 18 hours ago #177516

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We are beating most sides at home cupwinners so the pressure doesn't seem to bother the lads too much ;)

Forgetting last night for a moment we clearly have a mental block away from home. The number of mistakes we make away that we don't make at home and stupid goals we give away is ridiculous. I'm not sure how much of that is down to Cook or his tactics. Tactics don't make you make mistakes.

Last night I thought we were excellent in most parts and was happy with a point and more importantly a clean sheet and then BANG. Great goal that you can't blame on anyone but with our away record you feel extra p***** off especially given the chances we missed. Maybe the pressure of finding a win gets to the players in front of goal.

I agree about Moore. He wins practically every header but heads it to nobody. I was hoping that Jamal Lowe with his pace would be the perfect backup for him but he looks League One at best with his finishing which goes back to what I've said before. We sign League One players we HOPE can step up. Whether it's wins at home only or a mix of both I think we are a bottom half Championship side at best that will flirt with relegation.
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 17 hours ago #177517

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The Egg wrote:
We are beating most sides at home cupwinners so the pressure doesn't seem to bother the lads too much ;)

Forgetting last night for a moment we clearly have a mental block away from home. The number of mistakes we make away that we don't make at home and stupid goals we give away is ridiculous. I'm not sure how much of that is down to Cook or his tactics. Tactics don't make you make mistakes.

Last night I thought we were excellent in most parts and was happy with a point and more importantly a clean sheet and then BANG. Great goal that you can't blame on anyone but with our away record you feel extra p***** off especially given the chances we missed. Maybe the pressure of finding a win gets to the players in front of goal.

I agree about Moore. He wins practically every header but heads it to nobody. I was hoping that Jamal Lowe with his pace would be the perfect backup for him but he looks League One at best with his finishing which goes back to what I've said before. We sign League One players we HOPE can step up. Whether it's wins at home only or a mix of both I think we are a bottom half Championship side at best that will flirt with relegation.

If only we could improve the away form, we'd be flirting around the top half - playoff positions. Not relegation!!
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 17 hours ago #177518

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I don't think we would improve it that much. Be 1 or 2 wins and we end up 12th-15th. We're not a season long top half side IMHO
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 15 hours ago #177521

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The Egg wrote:
I don't think we would improve it that much. Be 1 or 2 wins and we end up 12th-15th. We're not a season long top half side IMHO

Yes! I agree! We are nowhere near a promotion chasing team by any stretch of the imagination. I was referring to "at this particular stage of the season." Had we won a couple of games away we would be a lot higher & folks might be slightly happier.
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 14 hours ago #177524

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Watched it back this morning and so annoyed that they basically gave the Derby bloke a free pop at goal like kids playing 'three and in ' !!Three of our players basically stood right beside him and waved him through while he hit his 'free ' shot at goal to give Derby the points!!!
Poor basic defending again and that little snippet of play tells us so much about our lack of desire away from home and the inability to see games out when not faced with the pressure of the home supporters.No coincidence in my view just a lack of desire across the park and an acceptance of our fate.
No quality up whatsoever up top and players of genuine forward quality are left on the bench while the selected forwards lumber about the place missing sitters.
Beyond the joke and very very annoying but easily solved with correct team selection and tactics.
Was so positive after sunday but back to normal we go :(
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 13 hours ago #177525

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Sammy wrote:
This season away:
Played 7
Won 0
Drawn 1
Lost 6
For 3
Against 13
Points 1

This season away plus last season away:
Played 30
Won 2
Drawn 6
Lost 22
For 25
Against 57
Points 12

Is it really bad luck?


Had we had a similar record at home maybe we could put it down to luck but it's obvious his tactics on the road are totally useless. Derby were bad last night and there to be beaten but he was never going to go for it and take a risk. To me it appears he is happy with a point away every game but he forgets we concede too many coupled with his negativity up front means it always backfires and we lose again and again and again.
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 12 hours ago #177528

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Did anyone bring up the away form at the forum by any chance?
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 10 hours ago #177529

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Nuneatonlatic wrote:
Sammy wrote:
This season away:
Played 7
Won 0
Drawn 1
Lost 6
For 3
Against 13
Points 1

This season away plus last season away:
Played 30
Won 2
Drawn 6
Lost 22
For 25
Against 57
Points 12

Is it really bad luck?


Had we had a similar record at home maybe we could put it down to luck but it's obvious his tactics on the road are totally useless. Derby were bad last night and there to be beaten but he was never going to go for it and take a risk. To me it appears he is happy with a point away every game but he forgets we concede too many coupled with his negativity up front means it always backfires and we lose again and again and again.

The thing is there are folk on here saying we were unlucky last night and have argued we’ve been unlucky in many of the other 22 games we’ve lost away since the start of last season. At some point there has to be a realisation that it isn’t just down to bad luck. Maybe resignation has set, expecting the worst, a mental block, a habit that can’t be shaken off. Cook seems incapable of reversing that and so nothing changes. And it’s not necessarily a fault of his team selections, how it’s set up or the style of play. Last season he achieved his objective, but only just. The expectation this season is to see improvement, especially after money has been spent, but those same failings are still evident and an inability to correct those failing will be his downfall.
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Toothless..... 4 weeks 8 hours ago #177530

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No negatives from me on that performance. We are finally looking like a team, players left everything on the pitch.
Creating chances to, one goal would have probably seen 2 or 3. Their man looked offside and in the goalies line of view for the goal.
I'm gutted for Cook and all the players.

I didn't go but watching on SSN looked like one of their players was 2 yards off side and obstructed the view of Marshall. Poor decision by linesman & not one of our players made a claim for it??
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