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Oh so boring, Premier League 4 months 1 week ago #174803

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Yawn; it's predictably about who has the most money !
Ruined forever.
There was more excitement listening to Chorley Vs Spennymoor Town in the play off final of the Northern League Final. It probably meant more (emotionally) to the players of Chorley, than the City players could ever imagine (whilst they check their win bonus on the coach back up North.

Football is in a state of no repair :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:
Today is the first day of the rest of the season !
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Oh so boring, Premier League 4 months 1 week ago #174805

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£800 mill spent hasn't done the scumbags much good City and Liverpool have just been class and will probably contest the title again next season. Both are a delight to watch.
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Oh so boring, Premier League 4 months 1 week ago #174806

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No fan of the greed league but 97 points and lose 1 game all season yet still finish runners up. Bloody hell that is unbelievable.
Also to have to win 14 games on the trot to actually have to win the league is also just bloody unbelievable.
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Oh so boring, Premier League 4 months 1 week ago #174809

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The run in was far from boring TBH but the league has always been about who spends the most money and the Championship isn't much different.
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Oh so boring, Premier League 4 months 6 days ago #174835

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Yawn; it's predictably about who has the most money !
Ruined forever.
There was more excitement listening to Chorley Vs Spennymoor Town in the play off final of the Northern League Final. It probably meant more (emotionally) to the players of Chorley, than the City players could ever imagine (whilst they check their win bonus on the coach back up North.

Football is in a state of no repair :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:

Money definitely plays a major role now LH. Was a bit more exciting than last year though when City ran away with it.
For me the cheating in the game is equally as bad. Seems to be accepted now that the slightest bit of contact warrants a player acting like he's been shot. Hardly watch motd now.
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Never seen a side as bad for cheating as Brentford this season. On par with the greed league those men.
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I'd agree with that donny, Jack Grealish wouldn't look out of place in that Brentford side.
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Yawn; it's predictably about who has the most money !
Ruined forever.
There was more excitement listening to Chorley Vs Spennymoor Town in the play off final of the Northern League Final. It probably meant more (emotionally) to the players of Chorley, than the City players could ever imagine (whilst they check their win bonus on the coach back up North.

Football is in a state of no repair :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:

Money definitely plays a major role now LH. Was a bit more exciting than last year though when City ran away with it.
For me the cheating in the game is equally as bad. Seems to be accepted now that the slightest bit of contact warrants a player acting like he's been shot. Hardly watch motd now.



While you are both right about the money in the game City Liverpool and Spurs have proved that its also about being managed well. As I said before Utd have spent the same as City over the same period and are shite. Fulham spent well over 100 million and were relegated. Spurs on the other hand have spent less than us in the last few windows and made the top four and Champions league final. This season more than most has proved that spending wildly alone doesn't bring guaranteed success. Liverpool and City have been phenomenal because they have outstanding coaches. The best thing about the season though was the unmasking of Mourinho and the end of the myth about him being special. And of course the horror of Utd fans having to watch City and Liverpool being so brilliant knowing that one of them was going to be champions. I've enjoyed the greed league for once.
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Oh so boring, Premier League 4 months 6 days ago #174845

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I think this season showed that what Jose has done in the last two seasons winning trophies and finishing 2nd at Utd shows exactly how good he is.

As for Liverpool, yes they have a great coach but he has spent €442m why he has been at Liverpool so basically an average of £100m a year to get the squad he has and TBH he probably only has a squad of 14 or 15 players that are any good.
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I think this season showed that what Jose has done in the last two seasons winning trophies and finishing 2nd at Utd shows exactly how good he is.

As for Liverpool, yes they have a great coach but he has spent €442m why he has been at Liverpool so basically an average of £100m a year to get the squad he has and TBH he probably only has a squad of 14 or 15 players that are any good.


So egg obviously a closet Utd fan. The very fact that Ole came from that powerhouse of World football Molde and turned Utd around for a spell speaks volumes of how good Mourinho is. Also if he is that good how come he is still out of work. He is a busted flush who could fall out with his own shadow. So Liverpool spent big as well, only half of what Utd have so how many points did they finish behind the top 2 again.
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Ole is doing a great job isnt he. The players hated Jose in the end and anyone could have turned them around briefly. Soon as the honeymoon ended they have fallen apart again. He didn't spend a penny as he isn't in charge of transfers.

Klopp is a top coach as I said but to say he has done it on that alone just isn't true.

I like Jose I'll be honest. If sticking up for him makes me a closet Utd fan, does that make you a kopite?
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And to say Jose is a myth after a bad season with his record is ridiculous. Be like saying peps shit cos he only manages top clubs.
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The Egg wrote:
And to say Jose is a myth after a bad season with his record is ridiculous. Be like saying peps shit cos he only manages top clubs.


He has screwed up his last 2 jobs. Losing the dressing room does happen but he lost it at both Chelsea and Utd. The players at Utd have been a disgrace granted but it is still down to the gaffer to unite the squad not alienate certain players and cause rifts. But egg you missed my original point that this season has not been just about money but great coaching as well. Utd have hardly been stagnant in transfer dealings but have not competed because the guys in the hot seat are greatly inferior to those at City and Liverpool. Money will obviously buy you top players but it is still the coach who gets them playing to the level expected. Take Pogba and Sterling, the one with the biggest price tag has been a flop while the other has improved massively under a better coach. Don't you agree.
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Tough to control egos as big as those in the game nowadays I expect. Even Leicester players have had 2 managers sacked recently. As soon as you lose a few games they spit their dummies.

I think regardless of why he gets the boot, Jose is a superb coach/manager as are klopp and pep
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Oh so boring, Premier League 4 months 5 days ago #174857

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Yawn; it's predictably about who has the most money !
Ruined forever.
There was more excitement listening to Chorley Vs Spennymoor Town in the play off final of the Northern League Final. It probably meant more (emotionally) to the players of Chorley, than the City players could ever imagine (whilst they check their win bonus on the coach back up North.

Football is in a state of no repair :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:

Money definitely plays a major role now LH. Was a bit more exciting than last year though when City ran away with it.
For me the cheating in the game is equally as bad. Seems to be accepted now that the slightest bit of contact warrants a player acting like he's been shot. Hardly watch motd now.



While you are both right about the money in the game City Liverpool and Spurs have proved that its also about being managed well. As I said before Utd have spent the same as City over the same period and are shite. Fulham spent well over 100 million and were relegated. Spurs on the other hand have spent less than us in the last few windows and made the top four and Champions league final. This season more than most has proved that spending wildly alone doesn't bring guaranteed success. Liverpool and City have been phenomenal because they have outstanding coaches. The best thing about the season though was the unmasking of Mourinho and the end of the myth about him being special. And of course the horror of Utd fans having to watch City and Liverpool being so brilliant knowing that one of them was going to be champions. I've enjoyed the greed league for once.

That's true NL, three top managers and all in the English prem.
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The Egg wrote:
I think this season showed that what Jose has done in the last two seasons winning trophies and finishing 2nd at Utd shows exactly how good he is.

As for Liverpool, yes they have a great coach but he has spent €442m why he has been at Liverpool so basically an average of £100m a year to get the squad he has and TBH he probably only has a squad of 14 or 15 players that are any good.

Net spend is around 90m for Klopp egg. Figure you mention above is very similar to that of Jose's total spend.
No comparison between the style of footy each of them play. Most utd fans I know are not sorry he's gone.
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Tough to control egos as big as those in the game nowadays I expect. Even Leicester players have had 2 managers sacked recently. As soon as you lose a few games they spit their dummies.

I think regardless of why he gets the boot, Jose is a superb coach/manager as are klopp and pep

Absolutely true marrer it must be a nightmare trying to keep some of the modern pro,s in check these days and I think that's why Mourinho has become a dinosaur. Man management seems to be as important today as coaching skills and he hasn't got it. Its all about himself and that's why as you say the ego,s clash and dummies get spat.
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I think this season showed that what Jose has done in the last two seasons winning trophies and finishing 2nd at Utd shows exactly how good he is.

As for Liverpool, yes they have a great coach but he has spent €442m why he has been at Liverpool so basically an average of £100m a year to get the squad he has and TBH he probably only has a squad of 14 or 15 players that are any good.

Net spend is around 90m for Klopp egg. Figure you mention above is very similar to that of Jose's total spend.
No comparison between the style of footy each of them play. Most utd fans I know are not sorry he's gone.

Net spend = we sell our best players.

And that is another problem. Fans want instant success and have very short memories.
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Net spend is around 90m for Klopp egg. Figure you mention above is very similar to that of Jose's total spend.
No comparison between the style of footy each of them play. Most utd fans I know are not sorry he's gone.

This net spend argument of the Mousers is very subjective - last summer Klopp spent £161,550,000 & recouped £33,500,000 so his net spend alone last season was £128,050,000. From the stats I found online last summer Guardiola spent £63,720,000 & sold £70,050,000 of players so in the same period he had a net spend of -£6,330,000

Liverpool's net spend in the whole time Klopp has been here are skewed by the fact that they got £142mill for 1 player which equates for half their total sales. I heard Scousers banging on last week on TalkSport that what Klopp has achieved was greater than Guardiola this season coz they've spent next to nothing compared to City, almost as if he's had his team ripped apart in order to fund new signings but it simply isn't true. The vast majority of the rest of their sales is also skewed by the fact that, at will, they seem to be able to rip off Crystal Pace & Bournemouth for their squad players (Benteke, Ibe, Solanke & Sakho) to the tune of a combined figure of almost £90mill. No-one they've sold since Klopp arrived other than Coutinho has been anything more than a squad player

Both are clearly great managers who are able to motivate their players to a hell of a level - in some respects, as much as I hate City I see what they did this season as a greater achievement than Liverpool (in the league) as aside from the obvious i.e. winning it, to be put under the pressure that they were by Liverpool & not to crack takes some doing
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www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/f...ool-net-16267269.amp

Looking at these figures only genius is Pochetinno. We could all do ok with a billion!
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I like watching match of the day, I also enjoy the champions league, England games and the odd local league. I am also looking forward to the women’s World Cup this summer.
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I like watching match of the day, I also enjoy the champions league, England games and the odd local league. I am also looking forward to the women’s World Cup this summer.

I was taking you comments seriously until your last sentence dnr.
I'll not say much for fear of offending any female fans, but womans football is shite, and if we didn't live in such a namby pamby lefty politically correct era the media coverage would be virtually zero where it should be.
Make the DW an egg free zone.
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Net spend is around 90m for Klopp egg. Figure you mention above is very similar to that of Jose's total spend.
No comparison between the style of footy each of them play. Most utd fans I know are not sorry he's gone.

This net spend argument of the Mousers is very subjective - last summer Klopp spent £161,550,000 & recouped £33,500,000 so his net spend alone last season was £128,050,000. From the stats I found online last summer Guardiola spent £63,720,000 & sold £70,050,000 of players so in the same period he had a net spend of -£6,330,000

Liverpool's net spend in the whole time Klopp has been here are skewed by the fact that they got £142mill for 1 player which equates for half their total sales. I heard Scousers banging on last week on TalkSport that what Klopp has achieved was greater than Guardiola this season coz they've spent next to nothing compared to City, almost as if he's had his team ripped apart in order to fund new signings but it simply isn't true. The vast majority of the rest of their sales is also skewed by the fact that, at will, they seem to be able to rip off Crystal Pace & Bournemouth for their squad players (Benteke, Ibe, Solanke & Sakho) to the tune of a combined figure of almost £90mill. No-one they've sold since Klopp arrived other than Coutinho has been anything more than a squad player

Both are clearly great managers who are able to motivate their players to a hell of a level - in some respects, as much as I hate City I see what they did this season as a greater achievement than Liverpool (in the league) as aside from the obvious i.e. winning it, to be put under the pressure that they were by Liverpool & not to crack takes some doing

To look soley at the last twelve months spend of city and Liverpool is subjective in itself. And why are city in trouble with the football authorities?
All clubs buy and sell, it business. And a lot of clubs pay over the odds for some bang average players which isn't the fault of the selling club?
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Lopes and Windass are two examples but on a smaller scale.
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Windass certainly hasn't shone donny. Don't think his heart is at the DW.

Not sure about Lopez haven't seen enough of him. I can only recall seeing him once this season? Didn't shine but can't recall him doing too much wrong either?
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