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To me this is a pointless argument because it is between a fan with opinions, who is not afraid to criticise his club when he feels fit to do so and the other is a fan who has never said a bad word about his club who would make a good spin doctor! Neither will back down and so this is going nowhere……Again!
I have to admit that I do find it odd how some think it is the norm to drop like a stone and that it is nothing out of the ordinary! You should read the link I put up with the relegation from The Prem stats that I put up the other day. I don’t think that we have a God given right to be in The Prem but there is nothing to say that we can’t compete in this division! This transitional period and clear out does appear to be quite unconfined and just goes to show how bad MM’s predecessors actually were despite getting the usual ‘Full Support’ from the blind faith when others suspected that things were going awry!I’m confused.
Where’s the blind faith bit Phil?Of course there’s something wrong within the team – or we wouldn’t be second from bottom. My argument with Tez is about Delort, Dicko and Riera.
Sammy’s argument is as a result of his comment on my post.[/quote]
It was a bit tongue in cheek Jonny! Tez has an opinion and Sammy just seems happy regardless and always defends the club/manager or whatever! Some folk on here are saying that going down again so soon is normal and the stats clearly show that whilst not being impossible it is far from normal! The clubs that have dropped like a stone before have been clubs in dire straits financially and we are far from that! This ‘Little Wigan’ mentality and anti ‘Johnny Comes Lately’ attitude stinks if you ask me! The so called massive rise in attendances due to the JCL’s has benefited this relatively small club so much and the same trend would and has happened at all clubs in the same situation as we were!
I really do think that similar to me and my ‘Underground music scene’ tastes that some fans really are hankering for the old days when it was sort of cool and different to like an unfashionable club like Wigan! The football hipsters will be well and truly gone when we drop again and the return of good old football debate should return when people can actually say ” well that was fuckin shit today ” instead of just thinking that we are punching above our own weight! Or……Maybe there are some fans out there who want us back in non league football, now that would be uber cool ! :)To me this is a pointless argument because it is between a fan with opinions, who is not afraid to criticise his club when he feels fit to do so and the other is a fan who has never said a bad word about his club who would make a good spin doctor! Neither will back down and so this is going nowhere……Again!
I have to admit that I do find it odd how some think it is the norm to drop like a stone and that it is nothing out of the ordinary! You should read the link I put up with the relegation from The Prem stats that I put up the other day. I don’t think that we have a God given right to be in The Prem but there is nothing to say that we can’t compete in this division! This transitional period and clear out does appear to be quite unconfined and just goes to show how bad MM’s predecessors actually were despite getting the usual ‘Full Support’ from the blind faith when others suspected that things were going awry!Well it is possible that in as little as 3 seasons you could be ticking that box that gets you into that elite group of fans, with a trip to the Victoria Pleasure Ground !
I could if needed get old posts up where some of you calling these lads were singing their praises and saying that we needed them!
Filmoss wrote:
Someone who takes the time to trawl back through threads over a year old = Sad bastard![/quote]
Look up the words ‘Could’ and ‘If’! :)
WGTB, I’ve finally rumbled you !
You are really Donny’s Page !
You’d better come clean at the Bournemouth match !I don’t know which of us will be more embarrassed.
And, like Phil’s bookmaker, I’m really not looking forward to the Bournemouth match.[/quote]
Can I just say regarding my bet,I thought that there was a problem within the club and the players did nothing to appease me and so I accepted that we will more than likely go down! Out of interest I checked the odds and couldn’t believe my eyes when despite our plight we were 9-2 and so I snapped it up with a ton! I won’t mind at all if I lose the bet but should we go down I will have a little blow softener and so I am in a win win situation ! :)
My apologies, Phil.Perhaps it was the manner of his leaving that upset you.
“Thanks RM for finally capitulating and taking us down and then fucking off with loads of the club’s staff and the best best player from each key position ie Keeper, Defender, Midfielder and Attacker !”
I didn’t give a fuck when he left, I was just glad! ;)
I’m not fussed who stays and goes as long as we are left with a semblance of a half decent side ready to scrap, but I find it funny how all those who are leaving or have gone are shite all of a sudden and won’t be missed! I could if needed get old posts up where some of you calling these lads were singing their praises and saying that we needed them! Capricious springs to mind!
Well whichever way you look at this thread, Coyle ended up having better managerial statistics pro rata than Martinez and so case closed !
And yet your complaint is that Martinez left!
Martinez – the manager with no Plan B – resigned to go to a bigger and better job at Everton.
Coyle – the manager with no plan – was sacked. Last month he was appointed head coach of Houston Dynamo.[/quote]
Whoah! Steady on cowboy, I think you will find that I wanted him gone! I was one of the few who was glad to see the back of him!
Carson’s confidence is low at the moment and some of his decisions have been questionable! He was all over the place against Huddersfield!
