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17 December 2013 at 5:26 pm #124935
Caldwell & al habsi featured in a reserve match .v. Southport who had ellington in their team.
As for powell, i assumed he was on a season long loan like lukaku at everton. Chelsea are not able to recall him until the end of the season. I thought the same principle applied with powell, in that he too cannot be recalled until the summer.
17 December 2013 at 7:40 pm #124936As for powell, i assumed he was on a season long loan like lukaku at everton. Chelsea are not able to recall him until the end of the season. I thought the same principle applied with powell, in that he too cannot be recalled until the summer.A parent club is able to put whatever conditions they want to in a loan deal no matter how long it is & in turn the club getting the player is free to accept or reject those.
Therefore if Chelsea cannot recall Lukaku it is because Chelsea agreed to a no recall clasue.
If United are able to recall Nick Powell that will be because United weren’t prepared to put a no recall clause in the loan deal & Latics were happy to accept that.
Just coz Powell & Lukaku’s deals are a season long doesn’t mean that because one parent club can’t recall their player that the other parent club can’t recall their player either17 December 2013 at 10:34 pm #124940who is clasue ?
17 December 2013 at 10:50 pm #124943Santa Clasue, of course.
18 December 2013 at 1:16 am #124944Its looking like Powell will be going to a Prem team for the rest of the season :( :(
18 December 2013 at 4:52 am #124948As for powell, i assumed he was on a season long loan like lukaku at everton. Chelsea are not able to recall him until the end of the season. I thought the same principle applied with powell, in that he too cannot be recalled until the summer.
A parent club is able to put whatever conditions they want to in a loan deal no matter how long it is & in turn the club getting the player is free to accept or reject those.
Therefore if Chelsea cannot recall Lukaku it is because Chelsea agreed to a no recall clasue.
If United are able to recall Nick Powell that will be because United weren’t prepared to put a no recall clause in the loan deal & Latics were happy to accept that.
Just coz Powell & Lukaku’s deals are a season long doesn’t mean that because one parent club can’t recall their player that the other parent club can’t recall their player either[/quote]I’d been thinking the same Runcorn. I’m sure there was sthg similar to this a couple of seasond ago re: Ali where a rule was quoted that season long loans couldn’t be recalled. Or is that just between Prem teams / teams in the same division?
18 December 2013 at 2:32 pm #124957if powell goes back send keane too and feck man u off and lets loan players from other clubs if needed
18 December 2013 at 2:56 pm #124961if powell goes back send keane too and feck man u off and lets loan players from other clubs if neededHow exactly is that “fecking Man U off”? I can just seeing there being crisis meetings at OT!
“Oh no, Wigan have sent back Powell, just as we asked them to, and they’ve also sent back Will Keane in a fit of pique!! How on earth are we going to afford the extra 2 and 6 that Wigan were paying towards his wages?”
18 December 2013 at 3:36 pm #124966Reet, I’ve done a bit of research.
If you look on the FA standardised rules it says “A Player on Long Term Loan may not be recalled, except for a goalkeeper or where the Player is to be transferred permanently by the Club (or club) holding his registered
contract. A Player other than a goalkeeper so recalled cannot be permitted to play for the Club (or club) holding his registration after such recall until the end of the Playing Season. Players so recalled can only be replaced by a further Long Term Loan with permission from the Company.”
The standardised rules tend to be for lower league levels to use as a template for their competition rulesThe Football League website says “Standard loans can be for a half season or full season. Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a standard loan can only be included in a full season standard loan & this can only be activated during the second (January) transfer window. Any other early termination of a standard loan must be by way of a mutual agreement in writing between both clubs & player but can only be completed after an expiry of 28 days and only during a transfer window”
So yes a loaning club can put a recall clause in a season long transfer but that can only be activated in January (apart from a keeper) unless both clubs & the player agree to one at a different time – in that instance I’m pretty certain that if United came in tomorrow & they said they wanted Powell back then he would go back as United may say they would not send any more Unietd players out to Latics at any point in the future
18 December 2013 at 5:06 pm #124977griff
you know what i meant your not that thick , but just for you ill explain i thought powell was here for the season ?
now manu want to recall him to send him back out on loan to another prem team
if it was not a full season loan then fair enough
but if it was and they break the year long loan they can feck off im sure we can get players from everton or anyother club come to that
and whats with the sarcastic comment about crisis meeting at OT a bit childish that how old are you ?18 December 2013 at 5:12 pm #124978griff
you know what i meant your not that thick , but just for you ill explain i thought powell was here for the season ?
now manu want to recall him to send him back out on loan to another prem team
if it was not a full season loan then fair enough
but if it was and they break the year long loan they can feck off im sure we can get players from everton or anyother club come to that
and whats with the sarcastic comment about crisis meeting at OT a bit childish that how old are you ?My point being that us telling United to fuck off is hardly likely to give them sleepless nights now, is it?
18 December 2013 at 5:23 pm #124979telling manu to fuck off wouldn’t give me any sleepless nights as well ;)
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