Last nights game

They were dire…including Villa Saturday and up to Griggs header it was 158 mins without a shot on goal.Never seen passing as crap in years and caught in possession constantly.”Next 3 games are important” state the obvious why don’t you.Christ the last 3 were too and nil goals ,nil points.The first half was painful to watch ,embarrassing at times and anyone who has watched us recently must be on the happy tabs if they can wrench any positives from that mound of tripe.Season so far is a pantomime form the pre-season recruiting to last night it has been a horror show and I for 1 cannot see this manager pulling us out of the bottom 3.All those who think the transfer window will come to the rescue then you really are straw clutching.

Its got fuck all to do with money how much Newcastle and Villa have spent we have always been in a different league throughout the clubs proud successful history. This is about piss poor managers sucked in by the Continental infestation of the Premier league and its cockeyed formations. When we were relegated from the greed league we should have gone back to basics. Instead we have persevered with this wing back one up top bullshit when we don’t have players skill full enough to play the roles. I’m sick of people thinking that 4-4-2 is just about having twin strikers. It isn’t we are expecting below average players to be Kenny Sansome one minute and Chris Waddle the next. Drop this wing back dross and put the lads back in their comfort zone and defend as a four. We have basic players so we should be playing it basic and until someone at the club has the balls to admit we are no longer at that level this nightmare will continue. Cloughie always said it was a simple game, not any more. Its in our DNA to battle against the odds and we are the greatest club at doing it so lets get back to being Latics and drop this pathetic boring tactic of trying to keep up with the Joneses.

Otter, the money spent by the big hitters is relevant to them not us. We have never competed budget wise even in the Prem. What we had was good scouts picking up players from Countries untapped before and getting them on the cheap. We had a good squad and good manager neither world beaters but worked well together. We played to our strengths not to the trend which seems to be the case now. We now need the manager to buck the trend and whilst we haven’t got any quality players lets keep it simple and to hell with what is deemed best by experts and pundits high on the Premier league.

The continental infestation of our game is the most accurate description of what has ruined our game. Superb I love that and so bloody true. It’s square pegs and round holes. They don’t go.

Last night we played with a back 4, we didn’t have any wing backs.

Newcastle have better players than us but on the whole ours ran their socks off and competed. Benitez made (expensive) changes in the 2nd half because we were on top and we were fairly unlucky not to get back onto level terms.
I quite enjoyed last night’s game and came away thinking that at least we had a go. If Grigg’s 2nd half header had gone in we could well have had at least a point.

I also like 4-4-2 but didn’t have an issue with us winning the league last season playing with wing backs and one up front.

But surely jimmy therein lies the problem. Your spot on we simply don’t have the quality anymore so we have to utilise what we have and keep it as simple as possible. Wing backs and lone strikers are probably the hardest positions for outfield players and are specialist roles. Great wing backs are rare as hens teeth and the lone striker is so reliant on his midfield being up to the mark. Its unfair to expect players to revel in these positions when they are lacking in the talent required to make them work as designed.

Well said Ste.

Post of the Year award to you.[/quote]

I’ll second that !!!

How many times have we had that conversation on the way to the match !!!