Back to the subject of the thread – instead of petty bickering
The current position
Played 20 Points 15
In my opinion we need 37 points to be safe
Played 38 Points 37
Which equates to either
Win 6 Draw 4 Loose 8 or
Win 5 Draw 7 Loose 6
That is the realistic situation – however the question still remains can this be done