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12 January 2015 at 3:07 am #138244
If Whelan is banned from all football related activities for 6 weeks, which lasts the duration of the transfer window, who will make the decisions on whether the manager gets potted, which players we sign, how much is available for transfers etc etc.
I know everyone will say, Dave Whelan, and that will probably be right, but do we have a Deputy Chairman? Someone’s signature will have to be on Malkay’s Dear John letter if he goes or at the bottom of a players contact.
I presume it would be Johnathon Jackson, but would the club not need to clarify this? just wondering like….
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What a journey!12 January 2015 at 3:21 am #138245Sorted, Phillip Williams it is. :ohmy:
DIRECTORS
CHAIRMAN – David Whelan
VICE CHAIRMAN – Phillip Williams
DIRECTOR – John Winstanley
DIRECTOR – Brian Ashcroft
CHIEF EXECUTIVE – Jonathan Jackson
From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!12 January 2015 at 1:30 pm #138246If Whelan is banned from all football related activities for 6 weeks, which lasts the duration of the transfer window, who will make the decisions on whether the manager gets potted, which players we sign, how much is available for transfers etc etc.I know everyone will say, Dave Whelan, and that will probably be right, but do we have a Deputy Chairman? Someone’s signature will have to be on Malkay’s Dear John letter if he goes or at the bottom of a players contact.
I presume it would be Johnathon Jackson, but would the club not need to clarify this? just wondering like….
According to an article I read on the day the ban was announced, the club decided not to appeal because essentially it makes no difference to the day to day running of the club.
It went on to say Whelan is not involved in the day to day running of the club and is not a signatory on any incoming or outgoing deals.
I’ve no doubt that it is Whelan who ultimately sanctions anything & if the decision is made to get rid of MacKay I am sure that ultimately it would be Whelan who would make that decision but as far as any official paperwork goes, it doesn’t have Whelan’s name on it.
The FA are completely powerless to stop Whelan making a phone call to Jonathan Jackson to sack MacKay, appoint a new manager, sign a new player, authorise a sale, or for that matter even prove any of the these.Ultimately, save for Whelan not being allowed to attend matches during the ban, the ban itself is pretty much worthless
12 January 2015 at 1:35 pm #138247If Whelan is banned from all football related activities for 6 weeks, which lasts the duration of the transfer window, who will make the decisions on whether the manager gets potted, which players we sign, how much is available for transfers etc etc.
I know everyone will say, Dave Whelan, and that will probably be right, but do we have a Deputy Chairman? Someone’s signature will have to be on Malkay’s Dear John letter if he goes or at the bottom of a players contact.
I presume it would be Johnathon Jackson, but would the club not need to clarify this? just wondering like….
According to an article I read on the day the ban was announced, the club decided not to appeal because essentially it makes no difference to the day to day running of the club.
It went on to say Whelan is not involved in the day to day running of the club and is not a signatory on any incoming or outgoing deals.
I’ve no doubt that it is Whelan who ultimately sanctions anything & if the decision is made to get rid of MacKay I am sure that ultimately it would be Whelan who would make that decision but as far as any official paperwork goes, it doesn’t have Whelan’s name on it.
The FA are completely powerless to stop Whelan making a phone call to Jonathan Jackson to sack MacKay, appoint a new manager, sign a new player, authorise a sale, or for that matter even prove any of the these.Ultimately, save for Whelan not being allowed to attend matches during the ban, the ban itself is pretty much worthless[/quote]
Lucky bastard, I wish someone would ban me! :)
12 January 2015 at 1:49 pm #138249Sorted, Phillip Williams it is. :ohmy:DIRECTORS
CHAIRMAN – David Whelan
VICE CHAIRMAN – Phillip Williams
DIRECTOR – John Winstanley
DIRECTOR – Brian Ashcroft
CHIEF EXECUTIVE – Jonathan Jackson
Jonathan Jackson is the signatory on contracts etc.
The other directors you’ve mentioned are, seemingly, there to take up the free VIP ticket allocation at away games.
12 January 2015 at 2:18 pm #138250Isn’t it Jonathan Jackson who is “the boss” who employs people?
Just like any big company there is a Chief Executive who runs the business on a day-to-day basis, the Board give “strategic steer”.
[Edit – Sorry SW, just seen your post. At least we agree!!]
13 January 2015 at 12:56 am #138262I’m assuming DW could not interview any potential new manager (as he normally does) during the ban so the ban could actually have some relevance.
13 January 2015 at 1:03 am #138263I think being laid up and recovering from a knee-op for 6 weeks in the Caribbean would prevent him from interviewing managers anyway. Not that he was likely to be contemplating changing managers anyway.
13 January 2015 at 1:48 am #138264Whelan gave Paul Jewell time and will give Malky time. if only for one thing. Compensation he would have to fork out.
13 January 2015 at 3:01 am #138266It will be interesting to see the level of activity in this transfer window, the results of which may give some indication as to how determined Whelan is to get us out of this predicament. There are still some high earners at the club. That coupled with the threat of the drop to League One and the end of the parachute payments would be a heavy financial burden for a club like ours. Is he prepared to take the risk?
13 January 2015 at 10:15 am #138267Isn’t there one more parachute payment? Could we have been any worse without them? Seems like we have only brought in journeymen in the last two years. Add to that transfer money and financially we have probably seen a much bigger income then when Whelan took us through the divisions with his own money the first time but that time we had a manager and players who were hungry and really wanted it.
13 January 2015 at 1:48 pm #138268Isn’t there one more parachute payment? Could we have been any worse without them? Seems like we have only brought in journeymen in the last two years. Add to that transfer money and financially we have probably seen a much bigger income then when Whelan took us through the divisions with his own money the first time but that time we had a manager and players who were hungry and really wanted it.The money involved in running a football club has substantially increased in the 10-15 years since we were moving through the leagues. As I understand it the club is financially healthy and selling players is a way of maintaining that situation. And before the question is raised once again, I don’t believe money is going into Whelan’s back pocket.
I think the parachute payments are over four years but decrease significantly in the last two years.
13 January 2015 at 2:25 pm #138269I thought that the season we got relegated the payments went up to £60m over 4 years? Now assuming that they are equal payments, £30m So far to a club that wasn’t faring too badly financially to start with is a big wedge and that sort of money coming in should not see us 2nd from the bottom and 5 points from safety ! So many questions at the moment points to big turmoil right through the club!
13 January 2015 at 3:28 pm #138272No, Phil.
It’s £48 million in all over 4 years – paid as £16m, £16m, £8m and £8m.
13 January 2015 at 9:54 pm #138280Agree with Sammy there. Money has probably never gone in Daves pocket, more likely on overpaid players and agents and all the hangers on etc it takes in running a PREMIER lEAGUE/ CHAMPIONSHIP CLUB.
Football finance just doesn’t make sense anyway, just look at Rovers and Noblot millions and millions in debt. That just doesn’t happen in the non football world. -
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