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Did anyone on here go to this at Wembley? Sixteen sets of fans in Wembley at the same time.
Bobby Cambells penalty miss. Never seen a worse miss I don’t think.Did anyone on here go to this at Wembley? Sixteen sets of fans in Wembley at the same time.
Bobby Cambells penalty miss. Never seen a worse miss I don’t think.Yes, me.
Not Bobby’s finest moment.
The penalty spot had been heavily watered I believe…!We were stuck with Leeds fans one side and Newcastle the other. I remember a mass game of football on Wembley car park with dozens of different shirts involved.
I wonder if something could take place like that again with the commercial aspect that has developed since then.I doubt it ever would with the reputation that the game has police wise even though it was worse in them days. I’ve been watching rugby 26 years and football for 20 and I’ve seen more fights at rugby than I have at football.
The Magic Weekend at rugby really is a top day/weekend out. I’m glad it’s somewhere you’d stay over again this year as it lost that vibe moving to Manchester. The caravan sites and hotels we stayed in were just covered in flags and shirts from clubs in all 3 leagues and the atmosphere was brilliant.
Would love the same to happen with football but like I say…sadly I don’t think it ever will.
To be honest, I was surprised that it happened then. It was when hools were at their peak, and lots of people predicted a right old tear-up.
But it was also a period when a lot of clubs were getting their lowest-ever attendances, so Wigan’s was far from the only mostly empty segment of terracing.
I do remember that Tranmere Rovers brought loads. That the Leeds fans supported us during our game against Sunderland to wind the Mags up, but that they also started singing “There’s only one Bobby Campbell” when he missed that penalty.
Personally, I would love to see the FA attempt it again.
I was also there. It was to celebrate the 100th birthday of the Football League, so if they arrange another in 2088, I doubt I will go. If they do, will they invite the Premier League clubs?
I’d only ever planned on going down for the one day. I was sort of hoping we would get knocked out to prevent having to make the decision whether to stay over for the following day’s proceedings.
Bobby’s penalty miss turned out to be a bit of a relief.
I remember it being a damp squib and a joke with mini 11 a side games that were televised all day .
The then clever souls at the FL dropped the fixture list at the business end of the season so it was hardly going to be popular.
It does seem surprising that their was no trouble but back then hooliganism only seemed to occur between like minded souls and respect was shown to the ordinary supporter who just wanted to watch the football.It does seem surprising that their was no trouble but back then hooliganism only seemed to occur between like minded souls and respect was shown to the ordinary supporter who just wanted to watch the football.As a kid of 4-14 through the 80’s that wasn’t my experience of football hooliganism at all during that period
As for the tournament itself, I was only a part time Latic back then having started going during the cup run of the year before, so I wasn’t there but saw some of it on the telly & my only recollection is Phil Hughes weird penalty saving technique
It does seem surprising that their was no trouble but back then hooliganism only seemed to occur between like minded souls and respect was shown to the ordinary supporter who just wanted to watch the football.
As a kid of 4-14 through the 80’s that wasn’t my experience of football hooliganism at all during that period
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The truth is somewhere between both. You could get caught up in it, but in the main like faced like, and if one lot were running down the street then stepping to one side standing still usually meant the hooligans ran past. Wearing colours obviously was out though, and you still needed to be alert.
In my Liverpool supporting days I only got “involved” in anything twice – once as we came out of Maine Road a guy who was on our coach, in full red scarf etc, latched on to me saying loudly “Ar eye la that was the gear, wasn it?” Of course he attracted the attention of the local morons who punched him and then turned to me and said “give us your wallet”. I swung a fist at his face, connected (more of a slap than a punch), and ran. The funny thing was I remember his reaction. He just stood there stunned and said “You…you…you…fool”. Honestly.
The other time was me and my mate walking down the road to Leeds Road Huddersfield when the local hardnut swiped my mate on the back of his head and said “come on then”. My mate was a 6 foot tall, 16 stone Welshman. He looked at this guy, and said “No” and we walked on. Terrier fan looked a right prat, and I think his mates laughed at him.
The truth is somewhere between both. You could get caught up in it, but in the main like faced like, and if one lot were running down the street then stepping to one side standing still usually meant the hooligans ran past. Wearing colours obviously was out though, and you still needed to be alert.In my Liverpool supporting days I only got “involved” in anything twice – once as we came out of Maine Road a guy who was on our coach, in full red scarf etc, latched on to me saying loudly “Ar eye la that was the gear, wasn it?” Of course he attracted the attention of the local morons who punched him and then turned to me and said “give us your wallet”. I swung a fist at his face, connected (more of a slap than a punch), and ran. The funny thing was I remember his reaction. He just stood there stunned and said “You…you…you…fool”. Honestly.
The other time was me and my mate walking down the road to Leeds Road Huddersfield when the local hardnut swiped my mate on the back of his head and said “come on then”. My mate was a 6 foot tall, 16 stone Welshman. He looked at this guy, and said “No” and we walked on. Terrier fan looked a right prat, and I think his mates laughed at him.
I guess it was all about what you experienced first hand but I certainly didn’t see any more respect for the ordinary supporter when it was kicking off regardless of what some of these hoolie books like to think!!
Just a few instances from my experience were:
Me (as a 14 yr old, my dad & a minibus load full of fat, middle to old aged United fans) getting set upon in Newcastle city centre in 1990 by a group who’d come out of the pub opposite as we walked past. Luckily out of the group I was the only one who saw them coming dodged out of the way of the first punch but he still managed to clock my dad instead who then also suffered the indignity of slipping in a pile of dog $h!t & crashing into the doors of a department store!!!! :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:
Going with a mate & his dad to watch Bolton v Chelsea in about 1984 in division 2. In the days before the Nomad supermarket end, the Chelsea fans were all in the end section of the Burnden Terrace & the seated area above it. Not long after kick off the Chelsea fans started throwing the wooden seats from that stand down into the Bolton fans in the terracing at the side of them. I don’t think they were especially just aiming at Bolton’s firm
Early on in the season after Chelsea played at Old Trafford in a midweek game. It kicked off all the way down Warwick Road from the lights to the ground as some Chelsea fans were attacking anyone in their path & then just as I got in the ground some Chelsea fans decided to climb over the wall of the away end into the seats above (the K Stand – just to the right of where the away section is now) & again attacked anyone who happened to get in their wayThey’re just the 3 that always stick in my mind the most. There were plenty of others
Fair point TL i suppose i am looking at it with rose tinted specs and maybe you were unlucky to drop on a few bullies.
A memory came back to me of the late 70s/ early 80’s – a home game against either Bradford City or Port Vale at home and a group of us being attacked by a pack close to Springfield rd.
I was only 13 or so at the time but we must have been chiding this adult mob so they must have thought stuff it lets go straight into them to teach them a lesson.We where only a pack of kids but a few slaps were dished out despite the gap in ages.
The point i am making is that if you were an inncocent supporter you could more often than not avoid trouble if you kept your head down unless you dropped on some bullying scum like you obviously did.
The fact that this Mercantile credit festival passed over without any bother during a very dark period for British football highlights this fact perfectly.
I can also remember a PNE game at springfield park (mid 90s) when due to our low gates at the time a good few PNE speccies sneaked into our areas and again no bother other than some trouble at the railway station between the like minded.Fair point TL i suppose i am looking at it with rose tinted specs and maybe you were unlucky to drop on a few bullies.
A memory came back to me of the late 70s/ early 80’s – a home game against either Bradford City or Port Vale at home and a group of us being attacked by a pack close to Springfield rd.
I was only 13 or so at the time but we must have been chiding this adult mob so they must have thought stuff it lets go straight into them to teach them a lesson.We where only a pack of kids but a few slaps were dished out despite the gap in ages.
The point i am making is that if you were an inncocent supporter you could more often than not avoid trouble if you kept your head down unless you dropped on some bullying scum like you obviously did.
The fact that this Mercantile credit festival passed over without any bother during a very dark period for British football highlights this fact perfectly.
I can also remember a PNE game at springfield park (mid 90s) when due to our low gates at the time a good few PNE speccies sneaked into our areas and again no bother other than some trouble at the railway station between the like minded.To be fair, it’s also the same now. I’ve been to hundreds upon hundreds of games down the years & the percentage that I’ve seen trouble at is really low. Even back then it was the exception rather than the rule
On top of that, as someone who’s never gone looking for trouble, the percentage that I’ve innocently got too close to or embroiled in is even smaller – the one I couldn’t get away from at all, and which I was right in the middle of, was the trouble that happened when we played Stoke at the JJB the weekend after Stanley Matthews died & that was in the NoughtiesIf I remember the Preston game you’re on about rightly I think it was during the 1993/1994 season. I was living away as a student back then but was back that weekend & turned up to see if any stewards were needed (I’d been a steward the season before). If it’s the same game, what happened what was that there were forged tickets doing the round amongst Preston fans & the away end was too full. As Latics were attacking down the town end in the first half the police decided to open up the gate between the away end & St Andrew’s side & quote a lot of Preston fans came through. problem was they hadn’t told the stewards & there was no segregation in place. I got sent up along with other to help form a barrier but I had 2 different Preston fans try to smack me so I decided where my talents could best be deployed was pitch side (
) & I helped lift a couple of kids over the wall. The senior steward told me to get the ref to take the players off the pitch which I tried to get him to do the next time the ball came over near me but he wouldn’tSpeaking of which, I also remember going to a Latics v Bolton game on a Friday night in the late 80’s or very early 90’s. As I walked round near the end all you could hear was “f***in pie eatin b****rds” (we were winning as per usual against them back then) and stood by the floodlight by the supporters club 2 Bolton fans started to run from somewhere near the tunnel & at about where the terracing expanded started hitting anyone in their path before carrying on & out of the ground
Aaahh the good old days!! ;) :cheer:
Me personally have only ever been hit once and that as at Bishop Auckland v Nuneaton F A cup game only went coz my mate badgered me into going with him. Walking out the ground tranny to my ear bored rigid when some hero punched me in side of head I went to retaliate and he ran back in the ground. I’ve told on here before about the big Welshman who threw me onto the pitch at Wrexham as a kid to keep me safe and nearly breaking my bloody neck when I landed :lol: :lol: :lol: .
Worse thing I saw at Springy was during the Non League 11 v Man City 11 friendly (yeah right) in the seventies, was stood on the terrace to the left of the Phoenix stand and bricks were coming from everywhere though I somehow mansged to remain unscathed.
I’ve witnessed some serious moments with England but again never personally involved and also during Wolves and Albion games which are really dangerous.
Football is so much better off without all that crap.
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