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Both McKay and Caldwell had chances to throw caution to the wind and swap things round particularly up front and neither did.Ultimately no forward threat has cost us all season long and Caldwell fell foul of it himself in his 2 games .I would prefer an experienced manager but I hoped he would have had the nuts to drop the waste up front and go for the juglar but nope same lame team as Friday.All possession and thats all.It just puts the turd on top of the cake in what has been a comedy season.Don’t think Caldwell has endeared himself to some of us, me definately not
The manager here is little more than a figurehead coz we simply refuse to move away from Robby Martinez’s blueprint for the club. No it is not Bob’s fault ,he has moved on but why else is that fucking prick Barrow still at the club and why does it appear that 5 different managers have had basically the same ideas?. Does the manager even have a say in who comes to the club?. Delort and Riera arrive and are not picked by Rosler then McKay and the Liverpool wonderkisd come in only for Malky not to pick them. Whether you rate Fortune or not it simply does not work with him yet he is fireproof. It is only my opinion and yes I’m hurting like hell as everyone is but we will never improve until we can employ a manager who can bring in his own support team and we get fucking shut of Bobby’s sidekicks. Im utterly fed up. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:[/quote]
Barrow’s the only Martinez ‘sidekick’ there.
And I’m not entirely sure how much imput he’s had over the past couple of years.
The mere fact that Caldwell has got the team playing on the ground and back to a possession based style would suggest Barrow has had little input in the tactics under Coyle, Rosler, or Mackay.
Both McKay and Caldwell had chances to throw caution to the wind and swap things round particularly up front and neither did.Ultimately no forward threat has cost us all season long and Caldwell fell foul of it himself in his 2 games .I would prefer an experienced manager but I hoped he would have had the nuts to drop the waste up front and go for the juglar but nope same lame team as Friday.All possession and thats all.It just puts the turd on top of the cake in what has been a comedy season.Don’t think Caldwell has endeared himself to some of us, me definately not
Yep, I think you are correct, Standish Fella.
We now need to add to our “refound” posession a little bit of “knowing when to mix it up”, otherwise we are truly back to the old Bobby style. Last night we started to pass back & sideways at free kicks / corners, when we should have been put the ball into the penalty area; to put a very poor Millwall team under pressure. I can see it, you can see it; but why oh why can’t our Managers & Coaches not see it ! Then we have a throw in about 3 or 4 yards from their goal line; the only time that Kqvist trots over to take a long throw; and yes he drops it to the feet of Perch who is about 8 feet away. For God sake man, the only time we have created danger in recent weeks is when the ball has been thrown into the box !! Remember the Bolton game !! Rant over.
The manager here is little more than a figurehead coz we simply refuse to move away from Robby Martinez’s blueprint for the club. No it is not Bob’s fault ,he has moved on but why else is that fucking prick Barrow still at the club and why does it appear that 5 different managers have had basically the same ideas?. Does the manager even have a say in who comes to the club?. Delort and Riera arrive and are not picked by Rosler then McKay and the Liverpool wonderkisd come in only for Malky not to pick them. Whether you rate Fortune or not it simply does not work with him yet he is fireproof. It is only my opinion and yes I’m hurting like hell as everyone is but we will never improve until we can employ a manager who can bring in his own support team and we get fucking shut of Bobby’s sidekicks. Im utterly fed up. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:[/quote]
Barrow’s the only Martinez ‘sidekick’ there.
And I’m not entirely sure how much imput he’s had over the past couple of years.
The mere fact that Caldwell has got the team playing on the ground and back to a possession based style would suggest Barrow has had little input in the tactics under Coyle, Rosler, or Mackay.[/quote]
Yep, I think you are correct, Standish Fella.
We now need to add to our “refound” posession a little bit of “knowing when to mix it up”, otherwise we are truly back to the old Bobby style. Last night we started to pass back & sideways at free kicks / corners, when we should have been put the ball into the penalty area; to put a very poor Millwall team under pressure. I can see it, you can see it; but why oh why can’t our Managers & Coaches not see it ! Then we have a throw in about 3 or 4 yards from their goal line; the only time that Kqvist trots over to take a long throw; and yes he drops it to the feet of Perch who is about 8 feet away. For God sake man, the only time we have created danger in recent weeks is when the ball has been thrown into the box !! Remember the Bolton game !! Rant over.
Both McKay and Caldwell had chances to throw caution to the wind and swap things round particularly up front and neither did.Ultimately no forward threat has cost us all season long and Caldwell fell foul of it himself in his 2 games .I would prefer an experienced manager but I hoped he would have had the nuts to drop the waste up front and go for the juglar but nope same lame team as Friday.All possession and thats all.It just puts the turd on top of the cake in what has been a comedy season.Don’t think Caldwell has endeared himself to some of us, me definately not
The manager here is little more than a figurehead coz we simply refuse to move away from Robby Martinez’s blueprint for the club. No it is not Bob’s fault ,he has moved on but why else is that fucking prick Barrow still at the club and why does it appear that 5 different managers have had basically the same ideas?. Does the manager even have a say in who comes to the club?. Delort and Riera arrive and are not picked by Rosler then McKay and the Liverpool wonderkisd come in only for Malky not to pick them. Whether you rate Fortune or not it simply does not work with him yet he is fireproof. It is only my opinion and yes I’m hurting like hell as everyone is but we will never improve until we can employ a manager who can bring in his own support team and we get fucking shut of Bobby’s sidekicks. Im utterly fed up. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:[/quote]
Barrow’s the only Martinez ‘sidekick’ there.
And I’m not entirely sure how much imput he’s had over the past couple of years.
The mere fact that Caldwell has got the team playing on the ground and back to a possession based style would suggest Barrow has had little input in the tactics under Coyle, Rosler, or Mackay.[/quote]
So enlighten us to what you think Barrow’s role is? :huh:
I’ve certainly seen him stood alongside all those managers quoted, pointing and confabbing. If he’s having no input to the team and tactics, then get him sat in the stands and stop paying him whatever salary he’s on. :angry:
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What a journey!Both McKay and Caldwell had chances to throw caution to the wind and swap things round particularly up front and neither did.Ultimately no forward threat has cost us all season long and Caldwell fell foul of it himself in his 2 games .I would prefer an experienced manager but I hoped he would have had the nuts to drop the waste up front and go for the juglar but nope same lame team as Friday.All possession and thats all.It just puts the turd on top of the cake in what has been a comedy season.Don’t think Caldwell has endeared himself to some of us, me definately not
The manager here is little more than a figurehead coz we simply refuse to move away from Robby Martinez’s blueprint for the club. No it is not Bob’s fault ,he has moved on but why else is that fucking prick Barrow still at the club and why does it appear that 5 different managers have had basically the same ideas?. Does the manager even have a say in who comes to the club?. Delort and Riera arrive and are not picked by Rosler then McKay and the Liverpool wonderkisd come in only for Malky not to pick them. Whether you rate Fortune or not it simply does not work with him yet he is fireproof. It is only my opinion and yes I’m hurting like hell as everyone is but we will never improve until we can employ a manager who can bring in his own support team and we get fucking shut of Bobby’s sidekicks. Im utterly fed up. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:[/quote]
Barrow’s the only Martinez ‘sidekick’ there.
And I’m not entirely sure how much imput he’s had over the past couple of years.
The mere fact that Caldwell has got the team playing on the ground and back to a possession based style would suggest Barrow has had little input in the tactics under Coyle, Rosler, or Mackay.[/quote]
So enlighten us to what you think Barrow’s role is? :huh:
I’ve certainly seen him stood alongside all those managers quoted, pointing and confabbing. If he’s having no input to the team and tactics, then get him sat in the stands and stop paying him whatever salary he’s on. :angry:[/quote]
Whelan’s ‘Eyes And Ears’ it really is that simple! ;)
So why did Coyle, Rosler Mackay and now Caldwell not bring in their own support staff which at every other club is standard?. And why did players arrive in the summer not play and go out on loan the next window?. There are simply too many oddities in what has gone on this season for it just to be down to bad managers. Managers who came with good reputations and have watched their careers crash and burn at Wigan. Two respected managers who between them could not win a home game since August and who both stuck with a forward who never scores and who had an integral part in both of them losing their jobs. Nothing makes any sense at all unless you bring in the outside interference factor. Many mistakes have been made from all departments of the club and after the end of last season everything was in place for us to push for promotion but we have imploded in spectacular fashion and unless the real root of the problem is found we will struggle again next season.
So why did Coyle, Rosler Mackay and now Caldwell not bring in their own support staff which at every other club is standard?. And why did players arrive in the summer not play and go out on loan the next window?. There are simply too many oddities in what has gone on this season for it just to be down to bad managers. Managers who came with good reputations and have watched their careers crash and burn at Wigan. Two respected managers who between them could not win a home game since August and who both stuck with a forward who never scores and who had an integral part in both of them losing their jobs. Nothing makes any sense at all unless you bring in the outside interference factor. Many mistakes have been made from all departments of the club and after the end of last season everything was in place for us to push for promotion but we have imploded in spectacular fashion and unless the real root of the problem is found we will struggle again next season.Yes they did. Coyle brought in Sandy Stewart and Mackay brought in David Kerslake.
Only Rosler didn’t bring anyone in, and funnily enough, he did much better than the other two – for the first half season a least.
Caldwell can’t bring anyone in because he’s never been a manager before.
And picking up on what you’ve said: which two managers came with good reputations? Rosler – to an extend, yes, I’ll give you that, and personally I think he may have pulled it round.
Coyle? Please don’t say Mackay had a good reputation! (in football terms, he did a decent job at Cardiff, but prior to that he wasn’t great)
We did fine in the second half of last season, but I think it was a bit of knee-jerk reaction with Rosler and then Whelan in his wisdom appointed Mackay, and decided he was going to defend him.
And that’s where the slippery slope got slippier and slopier.
So enlighten us to what you think Barrow’s role is? :huh:I’ve certainly seen him stood alongside all those managers quoted, pointing and confabbing. If he’s having no input to the team and tactics, then get him sat in the stands and stop paying him whatever salary he’s on. :angry:
I’d suggest he’s there as a sounding board on matchdays and during the week he coaches as per the manager’s instructions.
Simply- he’s a coach. Doesn’t have the stress of the manager. Does as he’s told. Gets paid.
The manager makes the decisions.
Otherwise, are you suggesting that under Martinez he was part of the possession-at-all-costs tactics coaching staff, but when the other managers came in he suddenly advised them to hoof it long, only to go back to the Martinez way of playing when Caldwell got the job?
To me it suggests he’s either had very little input, but is now advising Caldwell, or he still has very little input and it’s all Caldwell’s decision to go back to passing style.
Edit: Sorry, forgot to put a load of smiley faces in my post ;) :cheer: :kiss: :pinch: :silly:
So enlighten us to what you think Barrow’s role is? :huh:
I’ve certainly seen him stood alongside all those managers quoted, pointing and confabbing. If he’s having no input to the team and tactics, then get him sat in the stands and stop paying him whatever salary he’s on. :angry:
I’d suggest he’s there as a sounding board on matchdays and during the week he coaches as per the manager’s instructions.
Simply- he’s a coach. Doesn’t have the stress of the manager. Does as he’s told. Gets paid.
The manager makes the decisions.
Otherwise, are you suggesting that under Martinez he was part of the possession-at-all-costs tactics coaching staff, but when the other managers came in he suddenly advised them to hoof it long, only to go back to the Martinez way of playing when Caldwell got the job?
To me it suggests he’s either had very little input, but is now advising Caldwell, or he still has very little input and it’s all Caldwell’s decision to go back to passing style.
Edit: Sorry, forgot to put a load of smiley faces in my post ;) :cheer: :kiss: :pinch: :silly:[/quote]
I bet your edit was to rectify for loads of spelling mistakes and you’ve used that childish comment to deflect from it. Good idea mind…
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