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    loweylowey
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      Since when did we start using wing backs? I see them more tow full backs who venture forward now and again but not enough. As flat a back four as you’d see.

      #155775
      donnys pageDonnys Page
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        Sorry guys but how do play 4-4-2 using wing backs? Just coz we have 2 strikers on the field doesn’t mean we are going 4-4-2. That’s been our failing we need to revert to a flat back four thus asking your full backs to be just that. Many of the goals we concede are from balls in from the channels or from long punts up field. Lets shore it up at the back and get players playing in their comfort zone. Time to stop expecting average players to play Premier league football. Obviously its just my opinion

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        #155811
        cup winnerscup winners
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          So let’s see, Obertans last competitive match was at the beginning of December. So in those 6-8 weeks what’s he been doing ?, on a lager/kebab bender, curtains,closed watching boxsets all day ?.
          Considering he’s probably trained and kept fit since junior school I can’t believe he can become so unfit he can’t play minimum 1/2 a game of football once-twice a week. Surely he kept himself in good shape just to tick over especially so close to the Jan window.

          I think he’s here on a personal level and nothing more. To get himself fit and ready for the summer transfer market and it has nothing to do with helping an old pal out.

          14 players brought in, endless players out on loan that many I’ve lost count. We’re like a giant culender for players in the hope we get one good un.
          He will have to play like Ronaldo to get any credit but by the sounds of his fitness levels he’ll be more like the Brazilian Taybarns Ronaldo, eat-all-you-can

          #155812

          Sorry guys but how do play 4-4-2 using wing backs? Just coz we have 2 strikers on the field doesn’t mean we are going 4-4-2. That’s been our failing we need to revert to a flat back four thus asking your full backs to be just that. Many of the goals we concede are from balls in from the channels or from long punts up field. Lets shore it up at the back and get players playing in their comfort zone. Time to stop expecting average players to play Premier league football. Obviously its just my opinion

          You aren’t allowed one on that subject. Some contributors don’t like it.[/quote]
          Everyone’s allowed an opinion. Not everyone has to agree with it though – that’s the whole point of a forum.

          #155813
          No I think we played a version of the Wolves, Nob End and QPR games.
          I know what you mean though.
          I suppose it’s just a way to cry out for us to be positive and as you rightly say formations don’t matter much it’s really about getting the ball in the opposition’s box and net.
          I am blinkered though from that period of football that took us through the leagues and also in the past before that even when we were shit we used to go at sides and it felt like we had tried to win.
          This lot nowadays is just so boring.

          We did play 4-4-2 at Rotherham and Joyce has highlighted how it didn’t work.

          For recent games we’ve been playing something akin to 4411, but I don’t think the role suits Grigg.

          #155816

          Just a point, since Bobby we have favoured anything but 4-4-2 so is it right to expect to revert back for one game and demand it clicks immediately?. As for Joyce,s comment about it not working, well statistics show his way is certainly not working so what do we do?

          #155817
          Just a point, since Bobby we have favoured anything but 4-4-2 so is it right to expect to revert back for one game and demand it clicks immediately?. As for Joyce,s comment about it not working, well statistics show his way is certainly not working so what do we do?

          Only 3 Premier League team, and less than half of the Championship teams play a 4-4-2 formation these days, so the chances are most of the players in the squad will be more than used to playing in teams with a lone striker.

          The formation has little to do with the results in my opinion. It’s more due a lack of pace and some players simply being not good enough for this level.

          #155865
          jimmycjimmyc
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            Since when did we start using wing backs? I see them more tow full backs who venture forward now and again but not enough. As flat a back four as you’d see.

            Really? From what I watch we do use them as wing backs. Warnock is forever pinging crosses into the box & conolly high up the pitch. Both too slow to get back which creates a disfunctional formation at the back when the opposition attack.

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