will the fish play on sat

On another note, have spoken to numerous people north of the border who saw Sammon as the next Kris Boyd – but without the attitude problem (both ex-Kilmarnock). The lad’s suddenly appeared from nowhere, and they think Wigan may have got themselves a bit of a bargain.

Or, on the other hand – see David Graham for reference. One never can tell.

The people who criticise our signing of these young players simply don’t accept the financial reality of being Wigan Athletic. You’re wasting your time, SW.

Fil, are you sponsored by exclamation_marks_r_us or something?

I’ll wager he doesn’t start for fear he fails to actually score a hat-trick and thereby have his Latics career lambasted and ridiculed and written off as a catastrophe from game 1.

Oh aye, I’d definitely have him on the bench. It’s not exactly overflowing with strikers, is it? Personally, I’d give him a start in gung-ho 3-3-4 formation tomorrow, but that’s probably why I manage IT projects for a law firm instead of running a football team.

Bicky – you took the words right out of my mouth with that comment
Don’t people know that Bobby doesn’t sign players who are “ready” – he signs players who need time to “adapt” & who can be eased in. Expect Sammon to be given 10 or 15 minute cameo sub appearances for the next 12 months or more a la Victor Moses.
Or if he is thrown straight in & is a complete flop Bobby will use the excuse that he never intended to throw him in at the deep end but intended to ease him in & that’s why they don’t look up to the job but they will do in another 12 months a la Scotland, Gomez etc…[/quote]
Bit of a generalisation that Tyldesley if you don’t mind me saying.

Boselli, Di Santo, Gary Caldwell, Gahouri, Alcaraz, Diame, Thomas, Stam all played in the next game immediately after signing.

However, McCarthy, McCarthur, and Moses have all had to adapt in the reserves/on the bench – which, when you look the three players listed, begs the questions: does it work – especially with young players, and is Martinez right to do so when a lot of those thrown straight in are regarded as flops?

Personally I think it’s a good policy – picking up good young players on the cheap, however, it’s building for the future, which isn’t exactly great when you’re trying to avoid relegation.

And to end…picking up from any earlier thread:

‘And believe it or not it is possible to get players who are capable of stepping straight into a premier league side at our level without needing upwards of 12 months to adapt without breaking the bank.’

Who? Names names of Premier League players who aren’t being sold at inflated prices or who are on crippling salaries that would come to Wigan.[/quote]

1) I never said Bobby hasn’t signed any players who were capable of hitting the ground running. I’m more than aware that he has – my argument is that Latics (in this division) are always likely to be struggling. If we want to succeed in that battle year on year the squad needs to have players who can hit the ground running. IMO its only the bigger clubs who can afford to ease players in
2) Does it work easing them in? I’m not sure. For a start I don’t think McCarthy was eased in. He spent the entire pre-season injured & had trouble getting his fitness levels up. When he was fit Bobby played him in the cup game against Hull & he’s been an automatic starter ever since. I have no idea what he’s playing at with Moses – he’s been here a year now & he still doesn’t seem to think he’s ready for anything other than 15 minute sub appearances. £2.5mill of our scant resources for an impact sub?? I would say 12 months should be more than enough for him to have adpated but apparently not. McArthur seems to have taken to life at this level no problem but he seems to rank him behind Thomas, Diame & Watson. All 3 of those players have their limitations & faults but he won’t take a risk on McArthur
3) I agree a club needs to have a long term plan & a short term one but as Bobby said the other day, its vital to the future plans of Wigan Athletic that we stay in the premier league and I don’t think some of his short term decisions are making that an option
4) What players are out there who could hit the ground running without being bought at inflated prices & crippling salaries. I don’t know – I don’t have an array of scouts or agents at my disposal. Please note however that I didn’t say they had to be established premier league players I simply said our signings (in this window) needed to be players who could hit the ground running

The majority of the so called Dark Siders do actually care about the team hence their voiced concerns over what is happening. In my opinion the Dark Siders have more passion for WAFC than the complacent ” Dont worry about it ” brigade !! :thumbup:

Tosh! – ranting and raving and behaving like hysterical girls does not necessarily equate to passion.[/quote]

Oh it does ! Not that I rant and rave so perhaps I am not as passionate as some on here ! The ones who dont have a problem with the current plight of the club have in my opinion accepted our impending fate and deep down hanker for lower league football and the good old days !! :think: