I don’t think ive ever come across a more negative bunch than my own set of fans. Thankfully Griff you’ve already put a lot of good points across.

Seriously, what do all the Whelan haters really want? He’s took us from the brink of extinction in the bottom tier up to our 5th season in the Premiership, something even far more established clubs such as West Brom & Birmingham can’t achieve on bigger budgets. Were a small town, a small club with a fairly weak fanbase in comparison to others and we’ve been holding our own in arguably the best league in the world for 4 years. I remember when we could only just do that in Division 3. The difference between then and now is quite surreal.

Sure, we are clearly trying to make profits by selling out best players which from the fans pov isnt what we want to see, but this scouting system is good for the club on the pitch short term (provided we can keep finding them) and great for the club off the pitch long term. It beats bidding for players like Gavin McCann and Lee Carsley anyway. Add to the fact Whelan is trying to get us out the red, something most numpties in Wigan don’t realise seeing as they have no education, never mind business sense. Without trying to sound negative, we will get relegated one day, just as all clubs our size do eventually, so id rather see us without any debts and immediately be able to push for a return as apposed to a Leeds situation. With money having ruined football below the big 4/5 there’s only so far we can go, as bad as that sounds.