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What were the Wigan results against Bolton during the reign of these managers. I certainly remember getting tonked at the Reebok over Christmas 2011. Can anyone recall the positives that Roberto took from that game ? Was he proud of the performance; did we “grow into” the game ( by the 89th minute ).
Roberto has gone and we’re in a very diferent situation now.
There’s no point in comparing him with Coyle.
At least Coyle shows some touchline passion unlike Rob and his finger puppetry .I thought Bobby was quite studious on the touchline, his brain analysing the game like a computer.
The ones that go ballistic and kick the water bottles after every decision goes against them, or a player miss kicks the ball, are just winding themselves up, the bench, players, the fans,the 4th official and ref.
I don’t see that as passion, I see it as living on their nerves and nerves from the management and fans can spread to the players.
Games are not won by passion on the sidelines, its passion on the field that wins um.
From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!4 home wins means we must have had no passion on or off.He never had a plan B and his body language wasn’t studious it was little boy lost .
4 home wins means we must have had no passion on or off.He never had a plan B and his body language wasn’t studious it was little boy lost .Did you not notice that he acted exactly the same on the touchline winning or losing?
So he was a little lost boy when beating Utd, Liverpool………..
From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!can somebody please tell me why we are still going on about martinez?he took us down then jumped ship.says a lot about the man.he is nothing to do with wigan athletic now so get over him and move on.
Can’t we show a little gratitude too?
Thanks, Roberto, for your work here. Best wishes for the future.
Hello, Owen, there’s a lot to do. Let’s get on with it.
What were the Wigan results against Bolton during the reign of these managers. I certainly remember getting tonked at the Reebok over Christmas 2011. Can anyone recall the positives that Roberto took from that game ? Was he proud of the performance; did we “grow into” the game ( by the 89th minute ).Why is everyone so touchy ? Just trying to draw a comparison between us and Bolton at the time, because I thought that Bolton under Coyle were a stubborn team to beat. I for one will be supporting Coyle from the off and give him a chance to prove himself. Like Donny’s Page said in an earlier post, surely he can’t be any worse than Roberto. I really wanted Roberto to succeed and be an all time Latics Legend, but I think he “bluffed it” for the past two years and only survived so long because of the man love that DW afforded him. I now think that DW played a subtle game to oust Roberto without losing too much face after all the public loyalty that was spouted. If he’d really wanted to keep Roberto, he would have pulled out all the stops.
Games are not won by passion on the sidelines, its passion on the field that wins um.
[/quote]True, but having someone ‘geeing’ up the team from the sidelines can only be positive. Mr Ferguson could probably tell you that.
Like Donny’s Page said in an earlier post, surely he can’t be any worse than Roberto.Why are you so ungrateful? Can’t you bring yourself to say anything charitable about Roberto?
Circumstances have changed, and I would certainly expect Owen to be more successful in the Championship than Roberto was in the Premier League.
However, if you insist on comparisons, here are the records from their relegation seasons.
Coyle 2011/12 18 Bolton Wanderers (R) 38 10 6 22 46 77 −31 36
Martinez 2012/13 18 Wigan Athletic (R) 38 9 9 20 47 73 –26 36They’re not too different, are they? Oh – and Roberto won the Cup.
But it’s time to stop looking backwards. There’s a new season to look forward to.
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Why are you so ungrateful? Can’t you bring yourself to say anything charitable about Roberto?.Err pardon, I’ve been very supportative of Roberto during his time as a player & Manager at Wigan; almost man love; just ask HORC. However, my unconditional loyalty looks misplaced, since he has dumped us for greener grass; so maybe it’s time to take off my Roberto tinted spectacles and be honest about his brand of football, tactics, etc. Yes, thanks for the FA Cup; but he didn’t exactly plan it that way. We scraped through the first three games and only got serious at the quarter final stage.
My original thread was really aimed at people slagging off OC before we have even kicked a ball; probably the same people that have moaned about RM for the last 4 years. I’m not one of them, I always endeavour to support the Manager & Players for better or worse !
True, but having someone ‘geeing’ up the team from the sidelines can only be positive. Mr Ferguson could probably tell you that.Martinez encouraged his players throughout games: thumbs up, claps, nods, gestures etc.
What’s the point of balling and screaming when in a full stadium, only the players within a five yard radius can hear what the manager is shouting?
Apologies, Lostock. I’m looking forward to the new season too.
Past performance is no guide to the future, I know, but Owen doesn’t seem to have outshone Roberto so far.
And Owen does look comical standing on the touchline in his shorts. I wonder if he’ll be tempted to turn out and play again, or perhaps wear something more dignified.
But if silly antics on the touchline won prizes, Tony Pulis and Neil Warnock would be battling it out for the League Championship every year.
Neil Warnock in The Independent today; I stood with Arsene Wenger in the centre circle and turned towards [the technical areas]. I said, “Look at the dugouts, they are miles apart, you’ll never hear me.” He pondered, looked down at me from his great height, smiled wryly and said, “You will find a way.”
And Owen does look comical standing on the touchline in his shorts. I wonder if he’ll be tempted to turn out and play again, or perhaps wear something more dignified.”I think he’ll wear a complimentary pair of light tan shoes and ankle socks with his shorts !
He can wear what he likes, as long as the Tics get back to winning ways; even a kilt with his tan shoes !
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