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£8m for n’Zogbia! It cost us about £8m to sign him. From what I can remember we paid Newcastle £6m PLUS Ryan Taylor.
Opta have him down as having completed the most dribbles last season, plus he’s chipped in with a few goals in a struggling team.
Bob has transformed him into a player who looks a real threat so we can’t accept anything less than £15m.
Of course they are having a laugh, but it is what we should be doing. Place cheeky bids in and see what happens…..
And rightly so, a dismal offer of £8million from Birmingham.
I’d be looking for something around the £12million mark if we got that for Palacios and £17million for Valencia, I’d say Charles was every bit as good as those two.
Hope a bigger club comes in for him so we’ll get more money and he won’t come back to haunt us next season.
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I’m sure he’ll have it in his own mind that he’s worth a lot more than £8m now since moving to us. Frankly I think I would have valued him at around £8-9m when we signed him, because the deal included Ryan Taylor which would have gotten us about £2-3m if we had sold him outright.
Sadly wages come into play too, and if another club can offer him more than we can then I feel that a player like N’Zogbia would leave for any fee, and Whelan would surely accept a bid higher than £8m however slight, because we’re “not a wealthy club” don’t forget. :roll:
£14m and nothing much less. I hope he goes to a foreign team, we always sell top class players to established Prem teams, eg. Bullard, Valencia, Palacios, Cattermole, Heskey, Nash & Baines. How can we push into the top 10 when we sell our best players.
How can we avoid going into an oblivion of debt unless we make money in the transfer market?
We have to understand that we’re Wigan, players like the ones you’ve stated above probably wouldn’t have joined us (besides Bullard and Nash) if we weren’t going to be used as a stepping stone club, that’s what makes our club more attractive to good players and what gets us money at the end of the day.
I do feel however, that we should invest more of the money made into the team rather than just keeping it.
I just see this is a bit of a joke, the bid is silly low and why would he want to play for Birmingham!?? I know we didnt pay that much for him but he was going through a bad spell and Newcastle were desperate to sell, he’s worth around £14 mil at least.
If he stays for another season he’ll probably get a top 7 club bidding for him. He’d be a fool to push for a move, he’s far too good for Birmingham.
My thoughts exactly, plus I think we’ll be competing with Birmingham for survival next season, I think it’s vital that we don’t go selling our best players to rivals. I hope for the good of everyone, that he goes to a top 8 club.
We do a much better job than most football clubs’ academies at producing talent. We give young players, sometimes even “failures” at other clubs a chance to make it into our first team and from that they get first-hand Premier League experience that players at academies, etc. don’t get – then a club bigger than ours can just pluck the talent away from us because we need their money and they need players that are instantly ready to deliver the goods for them.
They don’t care that the players are integral to our long-term survival, or the fact it results in every single season becoming a “transitional phase” because we’ve practically got an entirely new squad, the majority of which are from overseas. As long as we’re in the Premier League or until we have a “miracle season” like Fulham we’ll always be resigned to picking up cheap unpolished talent from home and abroad and putting all the hard graft in for the benefit of the more established clubs that still think we’re pushing above our weight.
No, we don’t do better than any other Premier League club’s academy, the main reason for that being that we don’t actually have an academy, it’s a centre of excellence which is totally different and doesn’t bring through anywhere near as many good players.
Plus I don’t think we’ve had a player in recent years that we’ve brought up from very young to play for the first team, besides Leighton Baines that is, but we didn’t have him from a very young age we only snapped him up after Everton released him, and then they payed £6million for him so work that one out.
The only other products of out youth team that have made it in football I can think of from recent years are Lewis Montrose, Luke Joyce and Luke Ashworth, and all of those play in the lower leagues.
We should spend more in the transfer market because our youth system simply isn’t good enough.
No, we don’t do better than any other Premier League club’s academy, the main reason for that being that we don’t actually have an academy, it’s a centre of excellence which is totally different and doesn’t bring through anywhere near as many good players.Plus I don’t think we’ve had a player in recent years that we’ve brought up from very young to play for the first team, besides Leighton Baines that is, but we didn’t have him from a very young age we only snapped him up after Everton released him, and then they payed £6million for him so work that one out.
The only other products of out youth team that have made it in football I can think of from recent years are Lewis Montrose, Luke Joyce and Luke Ashworth, and all of those play in the lower leagues.
We should spend more in the transfer market because our youth system simply isn’t good enough.
I’m not comparing our “Centre of Excellence” to anybody else’s.
What I’m saying is that our club as a whole is effectively an academy for the bigger teams in our division, in that they get a fully developed player with Premier League experience without spending a couple of years getting them settled in, paying their wages, moulding them in training, etc.
Take Moses for example. We bought him for £2m (correct me if I’m wrong), and I predict that in about two season’s time he’ll be at a club like Everton or Aston Villa and we’ll have about £8m in return. We have to do all the hard work with him, and once he’s becoming indispensable he’ll get snatched up.
£14m and nothing much less. I hope he goes to a foreign team, we always sell top class players to established Prem teams, eg. Bullard, Valencia, Palacios, Cattermole, Heskey, Nash & Baines. How can we push into the top 10 when we sell our best players.Did I read this correctly…You used the phrase ‘Top class’ then used the name Nash (as in Carlo)? :shock:
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