Bob

must be some type of a record a Prem Team Getting knocked out of the FA Cup by a League 2 team or lower 2 seasons on the trot. never mind though hey just remember where we have come from ha ha ha ha ha.

yet you still have not come out with a reasonable reply to why everything is hunky dory under Martinez with out coming out with flippant throw away remarks. I think Fido as hit the nail on the old proverbial head about you on this board.

you can breath out again poppet. It’s not really an answer to the question is it?.

I think you will find we lost against Leeds unluckily granted, I was at Chelsea when Tommy scored what a night.

Point is tho thirty they were in the days when they were genuine upsets when you played your and played against their strongest sides todays shocker need,nt have happened had we gone for it and a win would have given us a boost.Imagine moral now ahead of 3 crucial league games.I dont see us picking up another point this month so what good will playing the team he did today bring?

Instead of ignoring them offer a counter opinion, all we ever tend to hear from martinez supporters when he is being slated is – change the record, darkside, disloyal,over reaction and personal insults to those that dont fit your profile.

Please take this opportunity to tell those doubters why they should change their opinion and why they should support martinez, while i realise thirty4 rarely has any opinions it an open invitation to everyone who is pro martinez.[/quote]

Good point there and the apologists just come out with the same crap over and over and over again. SO COME ON 33 TELL ME IN YOUR WISDOM WHY MARTINEZ IS THE MAN WHO WE SHOULD STICK WITH?. don’t let sentiment and misty eyed nostalgia get in the way of your answer as well[/quote]

I’ll answer that one pal if I may;

1) Martinez is recognised by all the “football people” in this country including owd purple nose, as being the most knowledgeable, exciting, determined young manager around. There is no doubt that he will manage a big European club at some point, maybe a top national team.

2) Martinez tries to get his teams playing football as it should be played and at times we have witnessed the most attractive football seen by a Wigan Athletic team. OK we get heart palpitations when the defenders are knocking it around like Barcelona and getting caught out, but its a bit better than the John Filan punt up the wing for Lee McCulloch to head on to nobody, or it go straight into touch, remember the good old days?

3)He loves Wigan Athletic and you can see that in his every move and word. Call it sentiment, call it old pals act, whatever but he’s not some prima dona like Bruce who tells you he loves the club then feks off as soon as a bigger club with bigger spending power comes along. Shirking the challenge I’ll label it, frightened of rolling his sleeves up and getting on with it. Never making excuses of having to lose your best players or not being able to afford the £10m striker we all want.

4) He has kept us in the prem for two seasons and for the “stalwarts” amongst us, that is a fekin brilliant achievement last day win or not he did it. How proud did you feel when the players and staff were throwing bobby in the air at the Brit and DW being showered in champers. It makes me shiver thinking about it, because I love my team and I’m proud of what they have achieved and still achieving.

5) I and many others have seen a big improvement in the teams performance since the start of the season. Trudging off the DW after drawing against Chelsea and feeling disappointed is progress with a capital “P”. OK we’ve also lost games we should have won on possession and general play, but I’m not one of those fans who think we have a god given right to beat the likes of Swansea, Norwich, Sunderland, Bolton,Fulham etc. Apart from Swansea these are all teams who have graced the top flight for many, many years. If you actually expect that we should turn these teams over, the your as arrogant as the Liverpool and Chelsea fans who think they should turn little Wigan over every time they play us.

6) and lastly cos I’m boring misell now,.we are not in a disastrous position in the league. I honestly think, even after the Sunderland defeat that we are playing well enough to get to a comfortable mid table position. It has to be said and even the darkest of the darksiders must agree, that lady luck has shat on us this season. Big, big decisions have gone against us and cost us the points that would put us comfortably mid table.
Bringing somebody else in at this stage would definitely get us relegated. It would take months for a manager to shape a team and tactics so why risk it.

Now that’s my reasons for not wanting to join this “Martinez out” brigade.

Please don’t copy and paste this in a response with red highlighted comments under each of the 6 paragraphs. You asked for a reply to your question and you’ve had one, end of, next topic please.

PS keep those negative karmas coming, the more I get the more I realise I’m pishing some of you moaning tworts off. :P

No i don’t mean Griff at all. what you talking about Willis![/quote]
so who?[/quote]

does it matter? It’s not you but then again he probably is OK and i called him a C..t on here and he as called me worse. If we was introduced we’d probably get on but it’s a forum and it get’s out of hand sometimes. I’m pissed of with the result today but there are actually more important things in peoples lives to worry about then some Football team if the the truth be known.

I’m sorry but I can’t accept that Swindon would have been seeing this as great giant killing act league 2 against strugglers in the prem and thinking of milking it for what they can hebce biggest crowd at Swindin for donkeys years

The same as we did for the Chelsea match and I mean the one when we won 4-2 at Springy withe a passionate crowd and against the odds