Bogle

He did get a mention in the January transfer rumours but no it’s just me, I’ve been championing him for the long standing ‘much needed suitable central striker’ role and a poster over on ours* works with a Latic who reckons he’s Sh**e

*http://www.cottagecorner.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=6454&pid=79843#pid79843

I’m not his biggest fan to be honest with you.

Granted, we were poor and he got little service, but his positioning and awareness of his team mates were woeful in my opinion.

Hopefully it will improve with coaching and playing with better players, but I’d already been warned by a Grimsby fan at work that he’d probably struggle in a higher league, and as his confidence wanes, he’ll start missing good chances – and his prediction seem to be pretty accurate from what I saw last season.

As Tyldesley Latic says, the jury’s still out on him.[/quote]

Probably also worth pointing out in light of what Standish says, he did come in for some criticism from our interim manager back in March – Graham Barrow challenged him to “find himself” & said that “it’s all become about him a little bit – and he needs to become a better team player”

On the flip side to that, he did say in the same interview “Omar’s been smashing since he came in to the club”

I’m not his biggest fan to be honest with you.

Granted, we were poor and he got little service, but his positioning and awareness of his team mates were woeful in my opinion.

Hopefully it will improve with coaching and playing with better players, but I’d already been warned by a Grimsby fan at work that he’d probably struggle in a higher league, and as his confidence wanes, he’ll start missing good chances – and his prediction seem to be pretty accurate from what I saw last season.

As Tyldesley Latic says, the jury’s still out on him.[/quote]

Fair comments.

There’s a big difference between the Championship and League One, we ourselves are proof of that![/quote]

I beg to differ on that one, properly managed clubs have done ok after the step up from League 1, our downfall was that clown at the helm between November and March.

We had more than enough in that squad to hold our own in the Championship!

The fact that we had 3 managers who with 3 different approaches to games could not get that squad out of the bottom 3 pretty much all season suggests that the squad we had wasn’t good enough to hold it’s own.

2 of our keepers were garbage.
Warnock, for all his huff & puff, struggled with the step up at this stage of his career the more the season went on
We didn’t have a decent right back all season
David Perkins isn’t a championship quality midfielder
Max Power (who I wasn’t especially keen on in Lge1 to be honest) really struggled with the step up
Pretty much every loan signing was awful
We had 3 guys up front who had all been let go/sold by Championship teams because they didn’t think they were good enough & yet we went into that season thinking we didn’t need to strengthen the forward line in the slightest

Yes the managers made their mistakes, & plenty of them, but a lot of the players looked out of their depth all season.

The club did also suffer with lengthy injuries to several players in the same positions who I think, if fit, could have made more of a fist of staying up – Daniels, James, Kellett, Powell, Gilbey – but too many of those who were fit weren’t good enough for that level.

The blame can’t all be heaped on the managers

Six of one and half a dozen of the other for me.

The manager(s) made mistakes with team selections, tactics and signings and several of the players were not good enough. The blame for that though has to be put on the manager(s) who insisted on playing them.

It was obvious all season that Power wasn’t good enough yet he still played and we signed midfielders to seemingly act as cover for him. Also as Tyldesley says we had a strike force that had previously struggled at this level and topped it up with players from non-league and League Two.

Again, as Bullitt says Grigg was actually on fire and we were scoring goals early on but due to defensive mistakes we changed the entire way we played instead of just telling Bogdan to f*** off.

We trialled a RB ALL pre-season and then started the season with young Luke Burke who TBH did well and would be given another go for me next season. When he got injured it seemed to be a names in a hat style selection method for that position.

I was referring to the strikers that started the season and scored goals. Then yes we changed our style and they didn’t

That’s exactly right egg lad and its why I cannot understand the blame being laid at the players door and the old cliche cannot make the step up. The change made by Caldwell was inexplicable and is it not too much of a coincidence that Grigg never scored again. It has also rightly been pointed out about the poor quality of our full backs, no proper right back and Warnock maybe being long in the tooth. So why the fook employ the system and formation we did knowing we had these shortcomings. Its as though to some on here the manager must shoulder the least of the blame at all costs. Lets see if the very same players are still as bad under what we all hope is a better coach and tactition. If they are then I will gladly eat humble pie.