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I apologise if i got the whole formation thingy wrong, but i honestly thought that the 3 forwards now consisted of 2 strikers up front with one behind. I competely stand corrected.
I apologise if i got the whole formation thingy wrong, but i honestly thought that the 3 forwards now consisted of 2 strikers up front with one behind. I competely stand corrected.Said the man in the orthopaedic shoe ! B)
You’re almost right phil re the orthapedic shoes. I do have to wear specially made arch supports from the podiatrist for my high arches.
Hi Tyldsley thought you would be lurking around this debate somewhere B)
In reply to point 1 you must then think either Roberto is lying to trick people for whatever reason or he is that numb that he does not know his own tactics. What Roberto is doing with the front three is not a new thing Barcelone have been doing it for years but you dont hear people saying Villa & Messi etc. are wingers do ya…
In reply to point 3 Im not saying any of them are strikers I have and always will maintain they are 3 forwards ;)
Like Roberto has said n the past there is too much focus on what a 4-4-2 4-4-3 or whatever should look like/ should be. the tactics and positions of players is far more in depth than assigning them to a section of a 100 year old tactic and expecting them to do the same things as the thousands of players before them.
You have said yourself (might not have been you) Di Santo can receive the ball and drop back with Maloney and Moses advancing ahead of him and looking more like classic strikers?
I do realise where your point comes from though Tyldsley as when we have been poor or under pressure the outside forwards drift back into midfield.
I just think you are very strict with your idea of what a forward should be and do.
To be fair Salford, I have said in a few debates on this that the current system cannot be pigeon holed into any set formation as it is way too fluid – at times it can look like 5-4-1, at other times it can look like 3-4-3, at other times it can even look like 3-6-1.
I do pick holes coz essentially even if you consider Latics to play with 3 forwards, whoever plays that Di Santo/Sammon/Rodallega is asked to play as your more traditional “striker” the other 2 (whoever they may be) aren’t, so technically the Di Santo role is still the lone stiker – that’s my story & I’m sticking to it ;)
Also, whereas I’s always describe Di Santo’s role as a forward, the other 2 aren’t always forwards. They are not always a front 3, are not always asked to perform the role of forwards & so therefore aren’t forwards I’ve said that Di Santo drops deep to get the ball & allow others to get ahead of him but that doesn’t make those players (& McArthur often gets forward a la Bolton away) look more like a striker than him
I don’t get how you can say in Bobby’s system that players don’t play traditional roles & in the same breath say that Moses & Maloney are forwards!! They’re not forwards & they’re not midfielders – to me they’re a bit of both so I wouldn’t class the system as 3-4-3. Likewise I wouldn’t class the wing backs as midfielders (or defenders for that matter), hence if I had to pigeon hole the system it wold be my 3-2-2-2-1 thing I mentioned before[/quote]
4-4-2,3-4-3, 5-4-1,3-6-1,3-2-2-2-1 ….the list goes on.
Then again, there’s also 2-8-0 ! :lol: (forget the name of pundit (BBC, ITV?) who had Spain down for this in recent final against Italy ..
Think we’ll ever get there at WAFC under RM stewardship ??
Well sorry to p*ss on both of your bonfires but you can take it up with Roberto the guy who makes the formations who has said clear as day we have never played with a lone striker!!!!It was a 4-3-3
Going back N’Zogbia wasnt playing as a right winger and Rodallega certainly wasnt playing as a left winger.
I’d draw you a picture but if you cant be bothered to relaise your own teams tactics why should I bother to teach you?
If indeed it was Roberto that said that then he really needs to have a word with the personnel who decide what position the players have allocated against their name on the official site.
You and your semantics…….
Oh! and what you can teach me about team formations and tactics could fit (twice) on the back on a postage stamp.
Now then should you require assistance with your drawing I see these are on offer in the arcade:
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Well sorry to p*ss on both of your bonfires but you can take it up with Roberto the guy who makes the formations who has said clear as day we have never played with a lone striker!!!!
It was a 4-3-3
Going back N’Zogbia wasnt playing as a right winger and Rodallega certainly wasnt playing as a left winger.
I’d draw you a picture but if you cant be bothered to relaise your own teams tactics why should I bother to teach you?
If indeed it was Roberto that said that then he really needs to have a word with the personnel who decide what position the players have allocated against their name on the official site.
You and your semantics…….
Oh! and what you can teach me about team formations and tactics could fit (twice) on the back on a postage stamp.
Now then should you require assistance with your drawing I see these are on offer in the arcade:
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Two days and thats the best you can come up with?
Are you taking the Micky?
Martinez I am sure has bigger fish to fry than the positional markings on a website.
And I have better things to do than educate a crayon eating mong like you who could not even see what formation his own team was playing for over 2 years :lol:
Two days and thats the best you can come up with?Are you taking the Micky?
Martinez I am sure has bigger fish to fry than the positional markings on a website.
And I have better things to do than educate a crayon eating mong like you who could not even see what formation his own team was playing for over 2 years :lol:
I didn’t realise it was a time trial pal! Hey! but I guess it’s because of the speed that you can read at.
“Crayon eating mong”?…………..give me strength.
– and you wonder why no one ever takes you seriously – grow up.
Boselli is 2 light weight for the prem. His movement was never the greatest. Hes not very pacey.
Hopefully after a good pre-season his touch and finishing will be there…
Oh wait thats what happened 2 years ago!!Id sooner sell Boselli and buy somebody fresh, who would relish the opportunity to play for us.
Two days and thats the best you can come up with?
Are you taking the Micky?
Martinez I am sure has bigger fish to fry than the positional markings on a website.
And I have better things to do than educate a crayon eating mong like you who could not even see what formation his own team was playing for over 2 years :lol:
I didn’t realise it was a time trial pal! Hey! but I guess it’s because of the speed that you can read at.
“Crayon eating mong”?…………..give me strength.
– and you wonder why no one ever takes you seriously – grow up.[/quote]
Haha diddums :kiss:
The benefit of the doubt must apply to Boselli in my opinion. As for formations, they are so ambiguous the best of times its not worth discussing them any more ! Early on last season most posters on here were under the impression that RM favoured the 4-5-1 formation and I have to admit that that is the impression I was under but all that is in the past now and so hows about looking forward to the new season and see what that brings ! B)
The benefit of the doubt must apply to Boselli in my opinion. As for formations, they are so ambiguous the best of times its not worth discussing them any more ! Early on last season most posters on here were under the impression that RM favoured the 4-5-1 formation and I have to admit that that is the impression I was under but all that is in the past now and so hows about looking forward to the new season and see what that brings ! B)I agree….bring on the glorious 18th.
However, here is a very interesting read on positional play:
Another take on the whole thing
B)
The benefit of the doubt must apply to Boselli in my opinion. As for formations, they are so ambiguous the best of times its not worth discussing them any more ! Early on last season most posters on here were under the impression that RM favoured the 4-5-1 formation and I have to admit that that is the impression I was under but all that is in the past now and so hows about looking forward to the new season and see what that brings ! B)
I agree….bring on the glorious 18th.
However, here is a very interesting read on positional play:
Another take on the whole thing
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Eh??? Don’t understand a word of it….
Where’s the bit about three lines of 4-4-2, big lad and little lad up front, left footers on the left, right footers on the right, and defenders hoofing it out instead of all this poncey tippy-tappy and sideways passing?
The benefit of the doubt must apply to Boselli in my opinion. As for formations, they are so ambiguous the best of times its not worth discussing them any more ! Early on last season most posters on here were under the impression that RM favoured the 4-5-1 formation and I have to admit that that is the impression I was under but all that is in the past now and so hows about looking forward to the new season and see what that brings ! B)
I agree….bring on the glorious 18th.
However, here is a very interesting read on positional play:
Another take on the whole thing
B)[/quote]
Eh??? Don’t understand a word of it….
Where’s the bit about three lines of 4-4-2, big lad and little lad up front, left footers on the left, right footers on the right, and defenders hoofing it out instead of all this poncey tippy-tappy and sideways passing?[/quote]
Patience Sir,
that comes later in section 6 (an addendum) – Last Orders tactics and formations for the hard of understanding.
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