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When will he learn, I watched it and was on pins waiting for another slip of the tongue. Luckily he came through unscathed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30338539Why didn’t he mention about the text been private and the FA’s previous statements regarding private text and how they don’t get invloved
Rio Ferdinand want’s to remember before he blasts off he’s was a twitter sent for all to see not like that nob at Liverpool , MacKays was private.
When will he learn, I watched it and was on pins waiting for another slip of the tongue. Luckily he came through unscathed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30338539Why didn’t he mention about the text been private and the FA’s previous statements regarding private text and how they don’t get invloved
Rio Ferdinand want’s to remember before he blasts off he’s was a twitter sent for all to see not like that nob at Liverpool , MacKays was private.
I thought the texts were sent on a Cardiff owned phone? Otherwise how would Tan have known about them? Malky is hardly MI5 material
Football jobs are no different from any other job. If you have a work phone it’s never private if it causes your employer embarrassment.
Years ago when I was actually employed by someone (self employed for years :lol: ) the company IT policy regarding internet use was you must not access anything that “would cause the company embarrassment” if it was found out.
So the real problem is getting caught, rather than the nastiness of the text contents. Somebody shafted Malky and and I bet it made thousands of people associated with various sporting teams or users of company phones, check their mobiles and delete loads of joke threads.
Was watching that Rosemary West documentary the other day and thought to myself, how many other murdered people lay buried in back gardens, woodland areas, moors etc. and the murderers are walking around like nothing has happened. You can go on a website and look at all the missing persons database, it is humungous, they cant all have changed their identity, or decided to move abroad and start a new life.
Similar thing but on a bigger scale. :woohoo:
From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!When will he learn, I watched it and was on pins waiting for another slip of the tongue. Luckily he came through unscathed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30338539Why didn’t he mention about the text been private and the FA’s previous statements regarding private text and how they don’t get invloved
Rio Ferdinand want’s to remember before he blasts off he’s was a twitter sent for all to see not like that nob at Liverpool , MacKays was private.
It’s really sickening how this has turned into a Witch Hunt by the BBC and Daily Mail. My grandson was telling me of a Family Guy episode (he’s a big fan) where the lead (Peter Griffin) sang a song called “I need a Jew” to the tune of “When you wish upon a star”. I googled it and watched it and decided that if Mr Whelan can be taken to task for his error of judgement then the BBC (who have aired this episode several times I am led to believe) should be treated in the same way. Will we see that happening – somehow I don’t think so.
Also no one has mentioned the “Throw the Jew down the well” song played on the Borat film. Is this a case of one rule for the untouchable BBC and another for the common man (no pun intended).
The sooner the FA realise that more offensive stuff has passed and been aired, in public and in recent times then puts this case in the bin, where it belongs, the better. They can then go about their ways pontificating about how they will make the system better for the future so that this type of incident does not happen again – but exonerate him, they must.
Here’s the Daily Wail’s report…
As previous forum posters referred to…the Wail’s record on such matters is hardly exemplary :ohmy:
PS Anyone got Carly Barnes’ phone number? :woohoo:
When will he learn, I watched it and was on pins waiting for another slip of the tongue. Luckily he came through unscathed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30338539Why didn’t he mention about the text been private and the FA’s previous statements regarding private text and how they don’t get invloved
Rio Ferdinand want’s to remember before he blasts off he’s was a twitter sent for all to see not like that nob at Liverpool , MacKays was private.
I thought the texts were sent on a Cardiff owned phone? Otherwise how would Tan have known about them? Malky is hardly MI5 material :unsure:[/quote]
Wasn’t Iain Moody under investigation and a court order to search Moody’s home hence hard drives and phones were searched. MacKay was in the process of a 7.5 million pound claim against Tan and Tan was looking for 1 scrap of evidence to get the claim thrown out. The day after the text were found MacKay dropped his claim.
The agent in question , Phil Smith , is he related to Larry Fine ?And this is just taking the urine , wee egyptian ?? wtf ?;-
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/08/22/malky-mackay-wee-egyptian_n_5698746.html
When will he learn, I watched it and was on pins waiting for another slip of the tongue. Luckily he came through unscathed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30338539Why didn’t he mention about the text been private and the FA’s previous statements regarding private text and how they don’t get invloved
Rio Ferdinand want’s to remember before he blasts off he’s was a twitter sent for all to see not like that nob at Liverpool , MacKays was private.
That is raking up old news and was from a day or so after his Guardian interview. Since then he has remained silent even when Fu Manchu started having a go.
With a bit of luck since that video he has learned but if he is cleared, some folk better watch out.Here’s the Daily Wail’s report…As previous forum posters referred to…the Wail’s record on such matters is hardly exemplary :ohmy:
PS Anyone got Carly Barnes’ phone number? :woohoo:
It’s interesting to note in this Daily Mail article that the South Korean players agent says something along the line of they’re only words and far from experiencing any prejudice from Mackay when he was in charge at Cardiff, that Mackay actually went out of his way to make him feel welcome & to help him settle
Here’s the Daily Wail’s report…
As previous forum posters referred to…the Wail’s record on such matters is hardly exemplary :ohmy:
PS Anyone got Carly Barnes’ phone number? :woohoo:
It’s interesting to note in this Daily Mail article that the South Korean players agent says something along the line of they’re only words and far from experiencing any prejudice from Mackay when he was in charge at Cardiff, that Mackay actually went out of his way to make him feel welcome & to help him settle[/quote]
Yes, which says far more about Malky than those texts.
The sooner this is put behind us the better.
Onwards and upwards…well there isn’t much further downwards to go
I think the reason the FA are dragging their heels with the MacKay incident is the repercussions if the FA were to find him guilty, privacy laws have to be taken into consideration.
I personally don’t the FA will taken action, can you imagine it, the FA having to investigate every claim regarding racist remarks sent from footballers phones in a one 2 one private text or email ?.
I think the reason the FA are dragging their heels with the MacKay incident is the repercussions if the FA were to find him guilty, privacy laws have to be taken into consideration.I personally don’t the FA will taken action, can you imagine it, the FA having to investigate every claim regarding racist remarks sent from footballers phones in a one 2 one private text or email ?.
If its just those texts (or even similar additional ones that have yet to come to light) then the FA can’t do anything. Aside from privacy laws they set themselves a precedent when they said they couldn’t charge Scudamore with anything when his former secretary leaked what some deemed sexist emails, on the grounds that it was private communication between 2 individuals
What I’ve read the delay is in either charging or not charging him, is that they want to investigate whether there are any texts/emails in the public domain and/or whether they type of language used in the ones currently known about is indicative of a culture of prejudice operated by Mackay when he was in charge at Cardiff.
The comments from the South Korean player’s agent would indicate that there wasn’t whilst the comments that have come from the player who claims he was known as the “wee Eyptian” would indicate that others felt there was (or may have been).
So aside from just looking through the texts & emails provided to them by Cardiff I think they’re also going to be interviewing staff at the clubI think the reason the FA are dragging their heels with the MacKay incident is the repercussions if the FA were to find him guilty, privacy laws have to be taken into consideration.
I personally don’t the FA will taken action, can you imagine it, the FA having to investigate every claim regarding racist remarks sent from footballers phones in a one 2 one private text or email ?.
If its just those texts (or even similar additional ones that have yet to come to light) then the FA can’t do anything. Aside from privacy laws they set themselves a precedent when they said they couldn’t charge Scudamore with anything when his former secretary leaked what some deemed sexist emails, on the grounds that it was private communication between 2 individuals
What I’ve read the delay is in either charging or not charging him, is that they want to investigate whether there are any texts/emails in the public domain and/or whether they type of language used in the ones currently known about is indicative of a culture of prejudice operated by Mackay when he was in charge at Cardiff.
The comments from the South Korean player’s agent would indicate that there wasn’t whilst the comments that have come from the player who claims he was known as the “wee Eyptian” would indicate that others felt there was (or may have been).
So aside from just looking through the texts & emails provided to them by Cardiff I think they’re also going to be interviewing staff at the club[/quote]Of course they can! They are not looking to bring criminal charges, this is an internal football charge loosely based on the old “bringing the game into disrepute” scenario. Wehther they should, or whether they want to risk someone counter-suing the is another matter altogether.
I wouldn’t be too concerned about what the BBC think. If they think harmless words are more serious then covering up a peadophile ring for the last 40 years then we all doomed.
I think the reason the FA are dragging their heels with the MacKay incident is the repercussions if the FA were to find him guilty, privacy laws have to be taken into consideration.
I personally don’t the FA will taken action, can you imagine it, the FA having to investigate every claim regarding racist remarks sent from footballers phones in a one 2 one private text or email ?.
If its just those texts (or even similar additional ones that have yet to come to light) then the FA can’t do anything. Aside from privacy laws they set themselves a precedent when they said they couldn’t charge Scudamore with anything when his former secretary leaked what some deemed sexist emails, on the grounds that it was private communication between 2 individuals
What I’ve read the delay is in either charging or not charging him, is that they want to investigate whether there are any texts/emails in the public domain and/or whether they type of language used in the ones currently known about is indicative of a culture of prejudice operated by Mackay when he was in charge at Cardiff.
The comments from the South Korean player’s agent would indicate that there wasn’t whilst the comments that have come from the player who claims he was known as the “wee Eyptian” would indicate that others felt there was (or may have been).
So aside from just looking through the texts & emails provided to them by Cardiff I think they’re also going to be interviewing staff at the club[/quote]Of course they can! They are not looking to bring criminal charges, this is an internal football charge loosely based on the old “bringing the game into disrepute” scenario. Wehther they should, or whether they want to risk someone counter-suing the is another matter altogether.[/quote]
For the game to be brought into disrepute that would mean someone going public denouncing something or someone within the game, text sent privately cannot do this. If “wee egyptian” is bringing the game into disrepute then there’s fook all down for the wee jock Barry BannanI think the reason the FA are dragging their heels with the MacKay incident is the repercussions if the FA were to find him guilty, privacy laws have to be taken into consideration.
I personally don’t the FA will taken action, can you imagine it, the FA having to investigate every claim regarding racist remarks sent from footballers phones in a one 2 one private text or email ?.
If its just those texts (or even similar additional ones that have yet to come to light) then the FA can’t do anything. Aside from privacy laws they set themselves a precedent when they said they couldn’t charge Scudamore with anything when his former secretary leaked what some deemed sexist emails, on the grounds that it was private communication between 2 individuals
What I’ve read the delay is in either charging or not charging him, is that they want to investigate whether there are any texts/emails in the public domain and/or whether they type of language used in the ones currently known about is indicative of a culture of prejudice operated by Mackay when he was in charge at Cardiff.
The comments from the South Korean player’s agent would indicate that there wasn’t whilst the comments that have come from the player who claims he was known as the “wee Eyptian” would indicate that others felt there was (or may have been).
So aside from just looking through the texts & emails provided to them by Cardiff I think they’re also going to be interviewing staff at the club[/quote]Of course they can! They are not looking to bring criminal charges, this is an internal football charge loosely based on the old “bringing the game into disrepute” scenario. Wehther they should, or whether they want to risk someone counter-suing the is another matter altogether.[/quote]
They can’t though. They’ve admitted it themselves in the past.
There is a limit to what can be classed as bringing the game into disrepute & the FA stayed what that was several months ago
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