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Just hope the restrictions are completely lifted so we can enjoy going to an away game as well as home.
Localish ones:
Accrington, Morecambe, Fleetwood, Crewe and of course Bolton.
Longish distance:
Portsmouth, AFC Wimbledon, Plymouth, Cheltenham and CambridgeThere are couple there that may have ticket allocation issues should we be able to go too.
Not sure we will be able to go away games for a while, isn’t it just home fans to start with, or have I got that wrong?
Bolton will be a weird one, as we have a bit to feel sorry for towards each other. still hope they get relegated though
Bolton will be a weird one, as we have a bit to feel sorry for towards each other. still hope they get relegated though
They overspent to go into admin, we were shafted into admin, huge difference, they should have gone the way of Bury as they were worse scenario, but the wonderful EFL pulled all the stops for them to survive, not for Bury or us
Feel sorry for Bolton? I spat me Horlicks up wall when read that, you’ve got to be taking the urine !
They overspent to go into admin, we were shafted into admin, huge difference,
We had a shortfall of £500,000 a month – thats overspending.
We overspent based on our income, but not on pur budget. The owners were prepared to cover the extras to be competitive then changed their minds.
The state of football these days you need a rich backer to compete but if they get bored you end up like we did.
Bolton BTW didn’t pay back their debts….we did.
Havent we only paid back 25% of the debts to non-football creditors? That still means a lot of people and companies have suffered a 75% shortfall.
With respect to Bolton, my understanding was that if 25% isnt paid back, then additional points deductions would be applied. Bolton only had the 12 point deduction in 19/20 that was applied for entering Admin at the end of the previous season. The lack of an additional deduction in 19/20 or 20/21 suggests the new owners paid what they had to pay – same as Wigan.
Yes, because that’s the law when exiting administration.
Football is a business and as such operates on a buy now pay later method for everything from kit to transfer fees. It is only a debt if you don’t pay it when you’re meant to.
The difference between the two clubs is that when the invoice came into WAFC prior to administration it was paid in full. We had no debts despite the losses because our owners agreed a budget and we were within that. Once they changed their minds it left us with debts HOWEVER had we not been forced into administration we could have found ways to pay them through player sales etc but would have had to seriously cut our cloth. Putting us into admin was the biggest issue because it cut the lifeline. (Granted it was better than their actual plan)
BWFC didn’t pay anyone anything. Their income was spent on wages and they just racked up debt after debt.
Don’t think away fans will be allowed in most cases sadly. Should be able to get in the pubs though.
Yes, because that’s the law when exiting administration.
Football is a business and as such operates on a buy now pay later method for everything from kit to transfer fees. It is only a debt if you don’t pay it when you’re meant to.
The difference between the two clubs is that when the invoice came into WAFC prior to administration it was paid in full. We had no debts despite the losses because our owners agreed a budget and we were within that. Once they changed their minds it left us with debts HOWEVER had we not been forced into administration we could have found ways to pay them through player sales etc but would have had to seriously cut our cloth. Putting us into admin was the biggest issue because it cut the lifeline. (Granted it was better than their actual plan)
BWFC didn’t pay anyone anything. Their income was spent on wages and they just racked up debt after debt.
To simplify it somewhat…….
We did the monthly shop on a credit card. When the statement came in, we cleared it in full. Yes we needed money from the owners but that was agreed (bit like paying your wifes card)
Bolton did the monthly shop on a credit card and when the statement came in didn’t bother to make the minimum payment and then went out and did the monthly shop again.
Transfers are a little like buying from Littlewoods. Sign a player for £3m with 3 easy payments of £1m. Again….all payments were met when required.
The issue we had was that our budget included a money from the owners. Once that went we were in trouble. I would guess that 90% of clubs are ran the same way.
I may be wrong but I dont think we had any money from the PFA to pay the players wages whilst Bolton and Bury definately did. Our debts were minuscule compared to Boltons and like Super Stu says player sales would have easily cleared what debts we had. Dont forget Fulham were in for Robinson for a reported fee of 10 mill. Gelhardt was also being touted for a big money move to Leeds. Both moves happened but at a fraction of the cost because of the rules of administration. Our situation was completely different to Boltons.
To get back on topic Fratton Park is a special away day fixture and takes some beating imho. COYL
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