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Have you got it wrong again ? scored the winner yesterday in french top flight football but he’s not good enough for us ?. Who does are recruiting ? Helen Keller ?
http://sport.bt.com/beautiful-game/former-wigan-striker-scores-long-range-stunner-91363996965324?
Quality finish that’s no doubt. How many players come here.do nowt.our backroom staff must be doing something wrong.
To do nout you have to be played to prove your shite not left out or thrown out on loan. As someone once said on here (gobshite) he mustn’t be showing much in training to be left out.
Correct me if I’m wrong but the last time I looked their wasn’t a DIV1 Training Pitch League.
If he does nothing else but scores goals then he’s done what he’s paid to do.Correct me if I’m wrong but the last time I looked their wasn’t a DIV1 Training Pitch League.
If he does nothing else but scores goals then he’s done what he’s paid to do.His stats for us were:
Apps 11
Goals 0So he didn’t do what he was paid to do for us. The fact that he didn’t settle in England and wanted to go home probably had something to do with it.
He’s gone now and so have all the others on Horc’s list. Let’s forget about them and move on.
Look at the last say 10 strikers we have had and you will notice a problem! They can’t all be fuckin rubbish and some have since proved to be quite the contrary and so what is going on behind the scenes? The squad could have been replaced with players all in their 30’s and some on here would still say that they would be behind the club 100% ! Where do you draw the line with blind faith? Someone mentioned that we as fans are the paying customer and that is correct, but we are also meant to be loyal fans and so does that mean you accept just about anything that is thrown at you? The falling attendances will point to the blind faith remaining if this decline continues but that will be bad for their club and so would it have been more beneficial to publicly air grievances when this sorry fall from grace began? A quandary for sure! Blind faith would appear to be the club’s downfall, ironic isn’t it!
The only thing I’d disagree with is I don’t think it’s blind faith to carry on supporting the club, by attending matches.
People need to air their views, people need to have opinions. There’s no point sitting on the fence, it’s no good tongueing the club because you get invited to the odd forum and you might be on first name terms with Jonathan Jackson.
It’s the alternative view to the club, which was listened to on our way up which stood us in good stead, we stood together with all that was thrown at us.
From the appointment of Owen Coyle onwards the club has done what the frig it wanted, spewing all sorts of BS in the process which has divided the supporters. A lot swallowed it, the noisy few didn’t and imo have been proved right in their viewpoint, judged by why where we currently sit.
Our dilemmas will continue for some time yet, as the players get used to each other and with how Gary Caldwell wants to set up. It isn’t their fault, nor is it ours.
I don’t think blind faith has anything to do with it. Supporting a football club, especially one like ours is all about the heart ruling the head. Logic and stuff like that don’t come into it.
Some people overreact after a bad result or two. Some people dig their heels in and look for any positives they can find. But whether they are ultra negative, or a happy clapper it’s down to them wanting what’s best. People just have different ways of showing it.
But surely attending matches is a basic requirement for a football fan. Otherwise you may as well just latch on to Man U or Chelsea and park yourself in front of the telly. It’s not an act of blind faith to attend a match. It’s an act of support and a club needs supporting more when the going is tougher than when it’s all hunky dory.
I certainly don’t swallow everything the club says, but I also don’t criticise their every move and claim that I can run a club better.
Whether Delort started 4 of his 11 appearances or all 11 of them, he looked completely useless and I’m convinced he still wouldn’t have scored had he played 50 games for us. That’s my opinion which will differ from other peoples, but now that Delort has left I couldn’t give a toss how his career progresses.
He didn’t settle in England, he wanted to leave, he wasn’t a great loss. End of story. My concerns now lie with the stats if Will Grigg, Craig Davies and anyone else in this seasons squad.
What it is is most people have seen the club rise to the top league with the help of Dave Whelan and things were great. Now we have seen the fall from the top league with the same man owning the club and doing everything to run the club on very tight budgets unlike other clubs. Dave is still one of the wealthiest men in the UK and really as been quite ruthless with the austerity measures. Some would say they can’t blame him its his money while others would argue that a couple of bob extra invested in the last couple of years may well have promoted us back to the Premier League especially in the Coyle/Rosler season. Prudence in that what could have been premier league season could have seen us relegated but relegated in Burnley style where they took a fortune down with them. Reality is where we are with austerity hitting us further and having to off-load the Delorts Tavs Rieras Waghorns without even seeing what they can do. Who knows we might not get to see much of the new bunch of journeymen but we will still watch, not out of blind faith but it of something that is in our blood that makes us go and see what matches we can, check scores every week, check news now every hour, look on vital, read comments on herd. Whelan, Coyle, Rosler, Bruce, Martinez, Jewell, are all custodians but we are supporters and support our club in many different ways but with one common thing our love for Latics and not for whether we agree or disagree with all the afore mentioned people.
What it is is most people have seen the club rise to the top league with the help of Dave Whelan and things were great. Now we have seen the fall from the top league with the same man owning the club and doing everything to run the club on very tight budgets unlike other clubs. Dave is still one of the wealthiest men in the UK and really as been quite ruthless with the austerity measures. Some would say they can’t blame him its his money while others would argue that a couple of bob extra invested in the last couple of years may well have promoted us back to the Premier League especially in the Coyle/Rosler season. Prudence in that what could have been premier league season could have seen us relegated but relegated in Burnley style where they took a fortune down with them. Reality is where we are with austerity hitting us further and having to off-load the Delorts Tavs Rieras Waghorns without even seeing what they can do. Who knows we might not get to see much of the new bunch of journeymen but we will still watch, not out of blind faith but it of something that is in our blood that makes us go and see what matches we can, check scores every week, check news now every hour, look on vital, read comments on herd. Whelan, Coyle, Rosler, Bruce, Martinez, Jewell, are all custodians but we are supporters and support our club in many different ways but with one common thing our love for Latics and not for whether we agree or disagree with all the afore mentioned people.What pills have you been swallowing today? That doesn’t sound a bit like yout text messages over the weekend. You have certainley calmed dow a bit and seem a bit more chilled.
I hope you have kept a few tablets back for tomorrow!!The ‘Blind Faith’ I referred to was one of accepting anything thrown at us instead of protesting against certain decisions the club has made and they have made some fuckin howlers of late! I really do believe that the Malky Mackay business had a terrible adverse effect on the club and it was the decision to bring him to the club that was the final nail in our coffin in my humble opinion! Some of us spoke out about our concerns but the ‘Blind Faith’ told us to get behind the club and stop fucking moaning! Had we protested against the appointment of Mackay maybe we could have prevented that second drop! So therefore ‘Blind Faith’ or ‘Silent Majority’ isn’t necessarily a good thing. This sorry state of affairs could and should have been prevented!
The ‘Blind Faith’ I referred to was one of accepting anything thrown at us instead of protesting against certain decisions the club has made and they have made some fuckin howlers of late! I really do believe that the Malky Mackay business had a terrible adverse effect on the club and it was the decision to bring him to the club that was the final nail in our coffin in my humble opinion! Some of us spoke out about our concerns but the ‘Blind Faith’ told us to get behind the club and stop fucking moaning! Had we protested against the appointment of Mackay maybe we could have prevented that second drop! So therefore ‘Blind Faith’ or ‘Silent Majority’ isn’t necessarily a good thing. This sorry state of affairs could and should have been prevented!OK we heard you the first time, second time, third time, fourth time etc et fekin cetra, let’s all try and move on, we are one game into a long campaign so let’s give the manager and chairman a chance. A new campaign a new challenge, this is what football is all about and why it’s the best supported sport in the world. You keep harping on about dwindling crowds yet we took 2, 500 on Saturday and all looked in good spirits. Not once did I or the other members of the gang I went with, talked about smashing this league. We were all excited and feeling a bit apprehensive for what is in store. If you don’t get the past few seasons out of your system and quick, I really will genuinely feel sorry for you and others in your mould.
From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!The ‘Blind Faith’ I referred to was one of accepting anything thrown at us instead of protesting against certain decisions the club has made and they have made some fuckin howlers of late! I really do believe that the Malky Mackay business had a terrible adverse effect on the club and it was the decision to bring him to the club that was the final nail in our coffin in my humble opinion! Some of us spoke out about our concerns but the ‘Blind Faith’ told us to get behind the club and stop fucking moaning! Had we protested against the appointment of Mackay maybe we could have prevented that second drop! So therefore ‘Blind Faith’ or ‘Silent Majority’ isn’t necessarily a good thing. This sorry state of affairs could and should have been prevented!
OK we heard you the first time, second time, third time, fourth time etc et fekin cetra, let’s all try and move on, we are one game into a long campaign so let’s give the manager and chairman a chance. A new campaign a new challenge, this is what football is all about and why it’s the best supported sport in the world. You keep harping on about dwindling crowds yet we took 2, 500 on Saturday and all looked in good spirits. Not once did I or the other members of the gang I went with, talked about smashing this league. We were all excited and feeling a bit apprehensive for what is in store. If you don’t get the past few seasons out of your system and quick, I really will genuinely feel sorry for you and others in your mould.[/quote]
You need to change your footnote thingy! :)
The ‘Blind Faith’ I referred to was one of accepting anything thrown at us instead of protesting against certain decisions the club has made and they have made some fuckin howlers of late! I really do believe that the Malky Mackay business had a terrible adverse effect on the club and it was the decision to bring him to the club that was the final nail in our coffin in my humble opinion! Some of us spoke out about our concerns but the ‘Blind Faith’ told us to get behind the club and stop fucking moaning! Had we protested against the appointment of Mackay maybe we could have prevented that second drop! So therefore ‘Blind Faith’ or ‘Silent Majority’ isn’t necessarily a good thing. This sorry state of affairs could and should have been prevented!After Whelan had backed Mackay and got himself into trouble, I doubt anything would have convinced him to sack him, as stubborn as he is.
It took Whelan’s resignation for it to happen.
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