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I dont yet they are doing considerably better than us ? Why is that ? :think:
Looking at their squad again, I think it is their strikers that swing this poser for me ! The rest of the squad is on a par with ours. On saying that, they have only scored about 6 more than us ? Therefore I will conclude that their manager and his backroom staff have some decent defensive know how and that they can get players who are of a similar standard to ours to do a job !I dont yet they are doing considerably better than us ? Why is that ? :think:
Looking at their squad again, I think it is their strikers that swing this poser for me ! The rest of the squad is on a par with ours. On saying that, they have only scored about 6 more than us ? Therefore I will conclude that their manager and his backroom staff have some decent defensive know how and that they can get players who are of a similar standard to ours to do a job !So, in a nutshell, is Bruce better than Martinez?
I dont yet they are doing considerably better than us ? Why is that ? :think:
Looking at their squad again, I think it is their strikers that swing this poser for me ! The rest of the squad is on a par with ours. On saying that, they have only scored about 6 more than us ? Therefore I will conclude that their manager and his backroom staff have some decent defensive know how and that they can get players who are of a similar standard to ours to do a job !So, in a nutshell, is Bruce better than Martinez?[/quote]
Bang on the money Standish hence my comparison ! The league doesnt lie now does it ! :shhh:
I dont yet they are doing considerably better than us ? Why is that ? :think:
Looking at their squad again, I think it is their strikers that swing this poser for me ! The rest of the squad is on a par with ours. On saying that, they have only scored about 6 more than us ? Therefore I will conclude that their manager and his backroom staff have some decent defensive know how and that they can get players who are of a similar standard to ours to do a job !So, in a nutshell, is Bruce better than Martinez?[/quote]
Bang on the money Standish hence my comparison ! The league doesnt lie now does it ! :shhh: [/quote]
And neither does money Mr Moss….Decent defensive coach required apply within ! I think this is what it really boils down to ! The league doesnt lie ! :think:
I dont yet they are doing considerably better than us ? Why is that ? :think:
Looking at their squad again, I think it is their strikers that swing this poser for me ! The rest of the squad is on a par with ours. On saying that, they have only scored about 6 more than us ? Therefore I will conclude that their manager and his backroom staff have some decent defensive know how and that they can get players who are of a similar standard to ours to do a job !So, in a nutshell, is Bruce better than Martinez?[/quote]
Hell yes, just look at there records while in charge of the Tic’s. :o :o :o
I dont yet they are doing considerably better than us ? Why is that ? :think:
Looking at their squad again, I think it is their strikers that swing this poser for me ! The rest of the squad is on a par with ours. On saying that, they have only scored about 6 more than us ? Therefore I will conclude that their manager and his backroom staff have some decent defensive know how and that they can get players who are of a similar standard to ours to do a job !So, in a nutshell, is Bruce better than Martinez?[/quote]
Hell yes, just look at there records while in charge of the Tic’s. :o :o :o [/quote]
Er, yes……AND no.
Consider the squad Bruce had at his disposal. It included the likes of Valencia, Palacios, Cattermole, Bramble, as well as Heskey, for part of the time, and an explosive half a season from Zaki.
The first half of Bruce’s full season with us, saw us looking quite good, in patches, but also dire in others. I literally fell asleep at one match, something I’ve never done before or since.
We got to January, looking like Europa League contenders,and then came the departures. Heskey went, Palacios went, and we all knew Valencia was leaving. Our form totally dipped, and we finished the season in relegation form, if anything. It was no surprise really, when Bruce jumped ship. I actually think he had been ‘tapped up’ by Sunderland months earlier.
So, in came Roberto. By that point, Valencia had gone. Soon after, Cattermole wanted to leave, and departed. I think Roberto had planned on building the team around him as well, as I remember the friendly at Preston, when Cattermole controlled the middle, and we looked great. What a blow early on for Roberto.Then of course, in the summer, Bramble went the same way, which wasn’t a shock, as it was debatable whether or not he was up to the style we wre now playing.
Given all this, I think it’s unfair to compare Bruce and Martinez.
Bruce also has one of the finest coaches in the game in Eric Black.I remember the massive improvement in 2007 when they arrived.
He upped the intensity in training and more emphasis was placed on direct attack through Valencia which produced some important results which kept us up that year.
They also had Nigel Spink and it was in this period that Kirkland produced some of his best performances.
They also turned Bramble from the lumbering joke that he was into a reasonable performer and resulted in the move up there.
Lets not forgot the very dodgy signings like Krapo and King though-Martinez has bought some decent players(Mcarthy,Moses,) that dare i say it of late are now bearing fruit.
Nothing with ever beat the magic of 2005-06 under Jewell though.I dont yet they are doing considerably better than us ? Why is that ? :think:
Looking at their squad again, I think it is their strikers that swing this poser for me ! The rest of the squad is on a par with ours. On saying that, they have only scored about 6 more than us ? Therefore I will conclude that their manager and his backroom staff have some decent defensive know how and that they can get players who are of a similar standard to ours to do a job !So, in a nutshell, is Bruce better than Martinez?[/quote]
Hell yes, just look at there records while in charge of the Tic’s. :o :o :o [/quote]
Er, yes……AND no.
Consider the squad Bruce had at his disposal. It included the likes of Valencia, Palacios, Cattermole, Bramble, as well as Heskey, for part of the time, and an explosive half a season from Zaki.
The first half of Bruce’s full season with us, saw us looking quite good, in patches, but also dire in others. I literally fell asleep at one match, something I’ve never done before or since.
We got to January, looking like Europa League contenders,and then came the departures. Heskey went, Palacios went, and we all knew Valencia was leaving. Our form totally dipped, and we finished the season in relegation form, if anything. It was no surprise really, when Bruce jumped ship. I actually think he had been ‘tapped up’ by Sunderland months earlier.
So, in came Roberto. By that point, Valencia had gone. Soon after, Cattermole wanted to leave, and departed. I think Roberto had planned on building the team around him as well, as I remember the friendly at Preston, when Cattermole controlled the middle, and we looked great. What a blow early on for Roberto.Then of course, in the summer, Bramble went the same way, which wasn’t a shock, as it was debatable whether or not he was up to the style we wre now playing.
Given all this, I think it’s unfair to compare Bruce and Martinez.[/quote]
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Great post dave!
rather have martinez any day than that fat potato headed mercinary. I read a very good article awhile ago when bruce was whingeing about darren bent leaving and loyalty. It basically said that is the most hypocritcal statement ever made was a good laugh to read it
MARTINEZ!
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