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11 November 2009 at 1:05 pm #12743
I sent MOTD2 an email on Sun night after they wasted much of our highlights time going on about the crowd. I got a reply. Thought people might be interested:
My comment:
There seemed a strange obsession with the size of the crowd in the coverage of the Wigan Fulham game – it was mentioned over and over during the match and afterwards. Strange editting to waste that much time on a peripheral issue when there was loads of action that was cut out. I’m sure you employ researchers. Here’s some facts for them. Wigan, being a Rugby League dominated town had only around 2,000 football fans only 10 years ago. Getting 16,000 home fans for the least attractive game of the season (more home fans than went to the Man Utd game) is pretty good going. Wigan RL also gets around 15K at home, and
there is virtually no crossover between the fanbases, so 30K people watching sport every week isn’t bad for a small town….Couldn’t you spend more time on the footie, or at least do some research if you’re going to go on about incidental stuff like this. Still at least you give our fanzines some good material to go on. Small team does well in Premiership shock!!
Their reply
Apologies if we came across as ‘obsessed’ about the size of the crowd at the DW Stadium on Sunday – it was not our intention.
Usually we would not mention the size of a crowd as a talking point, but on this occasion it was worth noting as it was the lowest of the season in the Premier League.
Of course we are aware of the external factors surrounding this – only 300 or so Fulham fans travelling north after their midweek trip to Rome, and the fact that it was up against Chelsea-Man U on the telly. We also appreciate the efforts Wigan went to to get the crowd they did on Sunday, as well as the greater history you mention in your e-mail of Wigan’s enormous rise in attendances in the last decade. It’s a heck of an achievement.Once again apologies for any negativity you may have felt on Sunday, we were merely intending to place on record what may or may not become a noteworthy statistic in this Premier League season.
All the best for the rest of the campaign
I have replied again, but have had no response as yet to this:
Hi – thanks for taking the time and trouble to reply. I really appreciate it.
I understand the need to document these issues, but the extended sections on the perceived lack of crowds, with no mention of mitigation e.g the split support in the town, where Wigan have come from (non league 30 yrs ago), and the lack of attraction in the opposition just came across to me as unduly negative (but I am biased!!). In all the games I’ve seen on MOTD, only John Motson has given a balanced view on the crowds issue at Wigan in last years live FA Cup game vs Chelsea.
The match was very attractive. Schwarzer made many more good saves that were cut out of the coverage. Supporters of little clubs like Wigan get used to being squeezed in time terms anyway on MOTD so it becomes annoying when what little time we get gets spent on peripheral issues.
Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to reply
11 November 2009 at 1:42 pm #12745Good point, well made but rather than reply to their reply, I would’ve left it at that.
Nice to see them giving a decent explanation though.
11 November 2009 at 2:27 pm #12747banjo – know what you’re saying, but I don’t think they really addressed my point, which is why I replied again.
If they’re going to waste that amount of time on it rather than showing the match they should at least give a balanced view. Thats what I was saying, and they didn’t answer that.
11 November 2009 at 4:11 pm #12753banjo – know what you’re saying, but I don’t think they really addressed my point, which is why I replied again.If they’re going to waste that amount of time on it rather than showing the match they should at least give a balanced view. Thats what I was saying, and they didn’t answer that.
You’re lucky they even took the time to reply at all, you’ve no chance of getting into a proper debate with them.
11 November 2009 at 7:40 pm #12758If they’re going to waste that amount of time on it rather than showing the match they should at least give a balanced view. Thats what I was saying, and they didn’t answer that.My understanding is that it at least used to be the case that they can only show a certain time of matchplay (otherwise they could just show full games). They “pad this out” with novelty views, interviews, comment etc. So even if they hadn’t included anything about the crowd there wouldn’t have been any more of the actual match shown.
12 November 2009 at 12:34 pm #12800Wigan RL also gets around 15K at home
Think you need to do some research sunny :lol: :lol: :lol:
12 November 2009 at 1:03 pm #12803Wigan RL also gets around 15K at home
Think you need to do some research sunny :lol: :lol: :lol:
Wigan warriors got an average of 14080 in 2009 compared to 18,413 for wigan ath in 2008/2009!
12 November 2009 at 1:04 pm #12804the last time Wigan RL played Fulham there was less than 4000 on if i recall
it was a top of the table clash as well (division two)
no idea how many fulham brought of that 4000 though
12 November 2009 at 1:15 pm #12805the last time Wigan RL played Fulham there was less than 4000 on if i recallit was a top of the table clash as well (division two)
no idea how many fulham brought of that 4000 though
I didnt know fulham had a rugby team! :oops: :oops:
12 November 2009 at 1:26 pm #12806Its been a while since Wigan RL where in Division 2! (1980-81) :mrgreen:
12 November 2009 at 2:19 pm #12808http://wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/index.php?page_id=400
Sorry I got it wrong they had over 8000 on against Fulham, their biggest crowd of the 1980/81 seasonCompares favourably to the 3216 they mustered up against Huyton or 3236 v Batley
Must have been the 4800 travelling Fulham fans for that game then
Still, Wigans a rugby town :roll:
12 November 2009 at 3:06 pm #12813Outside of the Premier League we last played Fulham on 1st December 1998, we won 2-0 and a crowd of 3,951 saw the second division clash at Springfield park. LINK
FA Cup Winners 2013, sounds good that
12 November 2009 at 3:22 pm #12815Anonymous
http://wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/index.php?page_id=400
Sorry I got it wrong they had over 8000 on against Fulham, their biggest crowd of the 1980/81 seasonCompares favourably to the 3216 they mustered up against Huyton or 3236 v Batley
Must have been the 4800 travelling Fulham fans for that game then
Still, Wigans a rugby town :roll:
Howd on a minute were did the forty thousend come from when they won the challenge cup surely not bandwagan jumpers :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
12 November 2009 at 3:49 pm #12818Howd on a minute were did the forty thousend come from when they won the challenge cup surely not bandwagan jumpers
Which year would that be? :lol:
1985,1988-95 or 2002? :o12 November 2009 at 5:23 pm #12828Howd on a minute were did the forty thousend come from when they won the challenge cup surely not bandwagan jumpers
Which year would that be? :lol:
1985,1988-95 or 2002? :oDid it finish in 2002? Nowt happened since then?
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