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    I sent MOTD2 an email on Sun night after they wasted much of our highlights time going on about the crowd. I got a reply. Thought people might be interested:

    My comment:

    There seemed a strange obsession with the size of the crowd in the coverage of the Wigan Fulham game – it was mentioned over and over during the match and afterwards. Strange editting to waste that much time on a peripheral issue when there was loads of action that was cut out. I’m sure you employ researchers. Here’s some facts for them. Wigan, being a Rugby League dominated town had only around 2,000 football fans only 10 years ago. Getting 16,000 home fans for the least attractive game of the season (more home fans than went to the Man Utd game) is pretty good going. Wigan RL also gets around 15K at home, and
    there is virtually no crossover between the fanbases, so 30K people watching sport every week isn’t bad for a small town….

    Couldn’t you spend more time on the footie, or at least do some research if you’re going to go on about incidental stuff like this. Still at least you give our fanzines some good material to go on. Small team does well in Premiership shock!!

    Their reply

    Apologies if we came across as ‘obsessed’ about the size of the crowd at the DW Stadium on Sunday – it was not our intention.
    Usually we would not mention the size of a crowd as a talking point, but on this occasion it was worth noting as it was the lowest of the season in the Premier League.
    Of course we are aware of the external factors surrounding this – only 300 or so Fulham fans travelling north after their midweek trip to Rome, and the fact that it was up against Chelsea-Man U on the telly. We also appreciate the efforts Wigan went to to get the crowd they did on Sunday, as well as the greater history you mention in your e-mail of Wigan’s enormous rise in attendances in the last decade. It’s a heck of an achievement.

    Once again apologies for any negativity you may have felt on Sunday, we were merely intending to place on record what may or may not become a noteworthy statistic in this Premier League season.

    All the best for the rest of the campaign

    I have replied again, but have had no response as yet to this:

    Hi – thanks for taking the time and trouble to reply. I really appreciate it.

    I understand the need to document these issues, but the extended sections on the perceived lack of crowds, with no mention of mitigation e.g the split support in the town, where Wigan have come from (non league 30 yrs ago), and the lack of attraction in the opposition just came across to me as unduly negative (but I am biased!!). In all the games I’ve seen on MOTD, only John Motson has given a balanced view on the crowds issue at Wigan in last years live FA Cup game vs Chelsea.

    The match was very attractive. Schwarzer made many more good saves that were cut out of the coverage. Supporters of little clubs like Wigan get used to being squeezed in time terms anyway on MOTD so it becomes annoying when what little time we get gets spent on peripheral issues.

    Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to reply

    #12745
    banjostringVP
    Player

      Good point, well made but rather than reply to their reply, I would’ve left it at that.

      Nice to see them giving a decent explanation though.

      #12747

      banjo – know what you’re saying, but I don’t think they really addressed my point, which is why I replied again.

      If they’re going to waste that amount of time on it rather than showing the match they should at least give a balanced view. Thats what I was saying, and they didn’t answer that.

      #12753
      banjo – know what you’re saying, but I don’t think they really addressed my point, which is why I replied again.

      If they’re going to waste that amount of time on it rather than showing the match they should at least give a balanced view. Thats what I was saying, and they didn’t answer that.

      You’re lucky they even took the time to reply at all, you’ve no chance of getting into a proper debate with them.

      #12758
      If they’re going to waste that amount of time on it rather than showing the match they should at least give a balanced view. Thats what I was saying, and they didn’t answer that.

      My understanding is that it at least used to be the case that they can only show a certain time of matchplay (otherwise they could just show full games). They “pad this out” with novelty views, interviews, comment etc. So even if they hadn’t included anything about the crowd there wouldn’t have been any more of the actual match shown.

      #12800
      jimmy_cornflakeCRAIG
      Player

        Wigan RL also gets around 15K at home

        Think you need to do some research sunny :lol: :lol: :lol:

        #12803
        landgatebluelandgateblue
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          Wigan RL also gets around 15K at home

          Think you need to do some research sunny :lol: :lol: :lol:

          Wigan warriors got an average of 14080 in 2009 compared to 18,413 for wigan ath in 2008/2009!

          #12804

          the last time Wigan RL played Fulham there was less than 4000 on if i recall

          it was a top of the table clash as well (division two)

          no idea how many fulham brought of that 4000 though

          #12805
          landgatebluelandgateblue
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            the last time Wigan RL played Fulham there was less than 4000 on if i recall

            it was a top of the table clash as well (division two)

            no idea how many fulham brought of that 4000 though

            I didnt know fulham had a rugby team! :oops: :oops:

            #12806
            swampdogDave Eccles
            Player

              Its been a while since Wigan RL where in Division 2! (1980-81) :mrgreen:

              #12808

              http://wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/index.php?page_id=400
              Sorry I got it wrong they had over 8000 on against Fulham, their biggest crowd of the 1980/81 season

              Compares favourably to the 3216 they mustered up against Huyton or 3236 v Batley

              Must have been the 4800 travelling Fulham fans for that game then

              Still, Wigans a rugby town :roll:

              #12813
              JaytJayt
              Chairman

                Outside of the Premier League we last played Fulham on 1st December 1998, we won 2-0 and a crowd of 3,951 saw the second division clash at Springfield park. LINK

                FA Cup Winners 2013, sounds good that

                #12815
                Anonymous
                  http://wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/index.php?page_id=400
                  Sorry I got it wrong they had over 8000 on against Fulham, their biggest crowd of the 1980/81 season

                  Compares favourably to the 3216 they mustered up against Huyton or 3236 v Batley

                  Must have been the 4800 travelling Fulham fans for that game then

                  Still, Wigans a rugby town :roll:

                  Howd on a minute were did the forty thousend come from when they won the challenge cup surely not bandwagan jumpers :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

                  #12818
                  swampdogDave Eccles
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                    Howd on a minute were did the forty thousend come from when they won the challenge cup surely not bandwagan jumpers

                    Which year would that be? :lol:
                    1985,1988-95 or 2002? :o

                    #12828

                    Howd on a minute were did the forty thousend come from when they won the challenge cup surely not bandwagan jumpers

                    Which year would that be? :lol:
                    1985,1988-95 or 2002? :o

                    Did it finish in 2002? Nowt happened since then?

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