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I am desperate for Wigan Athletic to not only be in the Premier League but actually start to compete. And by this I don’t mean spend like the big boys but progress say like Stoke. Yes they do get better support than us but if they adopted the same transfer policy as us would they still fill the ground?????? IMO no. But each year Stoke add to there squad and seem to improve, not something we can say.
If we really are struggling to cope financially why did we not sell the naming rights for the ground??? and why don’t we get a decent kit supplier????? Ok your not going get 100’s Millions like City but surely the revenue would help???
I am desperate for Wigan Athletic to not only be in the Premier League but actually start to compete. And by this I don’t mean spend like the big boys but progress say like Stoke. Yes they do get better support than us but if they adopted the same transfer policy as us would they still fill the ground?????? IMO no. But each year Stoke add to there squad and seem to improve, not something we can say.If we really are struggling to cope financially why did we not sell the naming rights for the ground??? and why don’t we get a decent kit supplier????? Ok your not going get 100’s Millions like City but surely the revenue would help???
Come on then, I’ll bite to get the day going and then leave you to it cos I’m busy today.
Do you have any idea the difference Stoke are prepared to pay in wages than us? No, neither do I, but from what I read whenever they sign someone it always seems to be more than I suspect our chairman is prepared to spend.
Naming rights for the ground? We have sold them effectively, to the DW Sports & Fitness malarkey. As you say, not sure there’s a huge queue of potential sponsors lining up and the likely revenue if we got anybody to cough up probably wouldn’t even come close to covering a decent player’s wages (the £400m city got is not even a realistic benchmark for stadium rights and is simply a blatant attempt by the owners to circumvent the financial fair play rules).
Kit supplier? Fair point, but on the flip side they are probably very cheap and we are a club that has to count every penny. We also have a chairman with an ego that has to be massaged and a toy that he has paid handsomely for and is therefore allowed to play with it every now and again. That probably extends to letting his grandson (I think) play kit manufacturer in the real world rather than Ker-plunk or Crossfire.
And finally, I actually do think that Stoke would fill their ground every week, or as near as damn it. They have traditionally had good support, are a one-sport, one-club city (nor forgetting Port Vale, of course). They also have a chairman who – probably, but I dont know for a fact – puts more of his ownhis company’s money into the club than ours does.
Football finance these days is driven primarily by what your owner is prepared to put in, one way or the other. We are stuck* with Dave Whelan and will cut our cloth accordingly – excuse the kit-making pun there.
* I’m not complaining about that, by the way
The answer to most of the questions above is no, the majority of our revenue will, and whilst in the premier league will always be the TV rights from SKY. We could have a naked Kylie selling the shirts and we probably wont sell many more.
We are where we are and doing alright.
Nice one griff!
I’d forgot about crossfire, I loved it as a nipper, thats me scratting around charity shops like a pov now.
i understand the struggle whelan has
he cant spend his own money on team building
people wont watch a struggling team
i am a prime example
watched them since early 70’s but have not been since we sold heskey and palacios
final straw for me was catts fiasco ,even though the player wanted to leave
nobody was more eager than me and my father my sons and quite alot of my friends
who i fear we will never return,so ill stick to the pubs…but have not been since we sold heskey and palaciosBoth of whom also wanted to go, so what’s the difference between them and the Cattermole situation?
people wont watch a struggling team
i am a prime example
watched them since early 70’s but have not been since we sold heskey and palacios
final straw for me was catts fiasco ,even though the player wanted to leave
nobody was more eager than me and my father my sons and quite alot of my friends
who i fear we will never return,so ill stick to the pubsyou have watched since early 70’s but won’t watch a struggling team or watch when we sell our best players?
on this basis why did you not stop going
a) any time pre-whelan when we struggled almost constantly? or
b) when we sold the likes of mike newell, david lowe, ray woods, peter atherton, joe hinnigan, to make up for poor income/gate revenue all pre-whelan?i understand the struggle whelan has
he cant spend his own money on team building
people wont watch a struggling team
i am a prime example
watched them since early 70’s but have not been since we sold heskey and palacios
final straw for me was catts fiasco ,even though the player wanted to leave
nobody was more eager than me and my father my sons and quite alot of my friends
who i fear we will never return,so ill stick to the pubsSo you stuck around during the Kenyon days but not now? Stop talking bollocks!
So you stuck around during the Kenyon days but not now? Stop talking two veg!But that was all before Bicky was sacked from the Whelan empire and became all bitter and twisted with a huge chip on his shoulder about everything that the man does.
I am desperate for Wigan Athletic to not only be in the Premier League but actually start to compete. And by this I don’t mean spend like the big boys but progress say like Stoke. Yes they do get better support than us but if they adopted the same transfer policy as us would they still fill the ground?????? IMO no. But each year Stoke add to there squad and seem to improve, not something we can say.If we really are struggling to cope financially why did we not sell the naming rights for the ground??? and why don’t we get a decent kit supplier????? Ok your not going get 100’s Millions like City but surely the revenue would help???
Fag packet reckonings:
Average attendance 16,000 per game = 9,000 spare seats per game
9,000 x 19 = 171,000 spare seats per season
171,000 x £30 (optimistic ticket price) – £5.1 million additional income
But, you need to shell out the money in advance to get the players in to generate this money. So effectively, you have £5.1 million to invest in order to achieve this.
As for the naming rights – we’ve already sold them to DW, and until we get a few of Ali’s mates playing for us, and think it’s about the best we could hope for.
And, how would a decent kit supplier help? Would more people buy Wigan shirts if they had a Nike logo on them?We’re doing as well as can be reasonably expected, so get used to it.
Would more people buy Wigan shirts if they had a Nike logo on them?Yes, however Nike would take a bigger percentage of the profits and therefore we’d make less money.
Stoke will be the new Portsmouth; getting a bit too big for their boots, paying silly wages, etc. Sit back and watch; we’ll come back to this post in 18 months.
Agree completely.
Their recent transfer dealings look a little strange much like those of Portsmouth and Brimingham in recent seasons.
Sunderlands another club who seem to be gambling.
Sunderland are on a suicide mission. They have bought 10 players this summer alone. Either Spudyed has pics of Niall Quinn with ladyboys in a hotel room or the board have completey flipped. :think:
To get some sort of return on this summers outlay alone will require at least an FA Cup win or a place in Europe. Neither of which are likely to happen. :doh:
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