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    bronxbomberRON HUNT
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      Got this off the Los Three Amigos web site

      Phasing out Martinez’s men?
      by JJ

      Fraser Fyvie

      “It’s not great. The manager’s just not given me any chance at all. Of course it’s demoralising. You go down there and a manager (Martinez) buys you and tries to mould you into the player that he wants you to be and then of course he went to Everton. The new manager (Owen Coyle) has come in and he’s got his own players, so there’s not much I can do apart from prove a point to him that I want to get in the Wigan side.”

      The words of Fraser Fyvie quoted by the Scottish Herald, before he joined Yeovil Town on a three month loan deal today. The young Scot had not even been made the bench, let alone started, in a league game this season.

      Were Roger Espinoza less tactful he too might say something similar. A star in an Honduras side that has secured qualification for Brazil, he has started in only two league matches for Latics this season.

      Despite his international experience – 34 caps for his country at the age of 26 – Espinoza has not appeared in either of the Europa League games up to this point. In the league matches where the Honduran made the starting line-up he was taken off after 65 minutes against Nottingham Forest and 55 minutes at Leicester.

      The loan of Rob Kiernan to Southend was announced earlier this week. It is the central defender’s fourth loan move since joining Latics in 2011.

      Kiernan is 22 years old and does not yet have the right kind of experience to enable him to challenge for a first team place. He has made regular appearances for Latics’ under 21 team, but the lack of serious competition in the Central League would not have done much for his development. The under 21s find themselves in a division of clubs from the third and fourth tier of English football. The gap between the level of football in the Central League and that of the Championship is huge.

      Fyvie is only 20. Unlike Kiernan he has considerable experience at a competitive level. He was signed as a 19 year old with more than 50 senior games prior experience under his belt for Aberdeen. Roberto Martinez used him sparingly last year, presumably giving him a year to adapt to English football. Fyvie has the potential to be a good player at Premier League level.

      When Coyle signed Chris McCann, Fyvie probably saw the warning signs. The squad was already overloaded with quality midfield players despite relegation from the Premier League. McCann himself has had few opportunities, despite his previous record of success in the division and might well prove to be a player of Premier League quality were the opportunity to arise.

      Conspiracy theorists will say that Coyle is ridding himself of players he inherited.

      Questions remain about the futures of long term injured players – Gary Caldwell, Ali Al Habsi and Ivan Ramis. Two of the three are ex-players of the year for Latics. The third – Ramis – might have received the same honour had his season not been curtailed by a cruciate knee ligament injury at Fulham in January.

      One also wonders about Shaun Maloney.

      A new manager typically brings in his own players. Coyle has done well in recruiting new players who can help Latics get back to the Premier League. That is quite distinct to preparing a squad that can get promotion and hold their own at that higher level.

      Coyle runs the risk of losing players who have already proven themselves at Premier League level, let alone a potential talent like Fraser Fyvie.

      One hopes that the conspiracy theorists are misguided.

      #122387
      LaticularH S
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        I hope he doesn’t make things similarly tricky for Rog. :( Currently my favourite player, not that I’ve seen him much mind, apart from jogging up and down the touchline for half a game!

        #122390

        He can’t take his Cup medal away!

        #122393
        bronxbomberRON HUNT
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          laticular. I agree, how Roger isn’t in the team? I think everyone is asking the same question. :unsure:

          #122398

          Fyvie wasn’t exactly a regular under Bob was he?

          #122401
          The EggThe Egg
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            Interesting comments from Mr Fyvie if true.

            He impressed me in the few games he did play.

            #122405
            bickymonbickymon
            Player

              thar an eggmon
              whats thy know bayt football stick to peanut wazzin ;)

              #122407
              LaticularH S
              Player
                laticular. I agree, how Roger isn’t in the team? I think everyone is asking the same question. :unsure:

                Im thinking positively and hoping OC didn’t want to put him regularly in the team because of his possible – and now for sure – World Cup commitments…

                #122408
                The EggThe Egg
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                  thar an eggmon
                  whats thy know bayt football stick to peanut wazzin ;)

                  :P

                  #122481
                  bob16alec almond
                  Player

                    ROGER ROGER ROGER ROGER ROGER ROGER ROGER ROGER,will some one please shout his name out at training.

                    #122495

                    fck me, have you been up all day thinking that one up luv?

                    alice, alice, who the fck is alice?

                    bomb

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