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David Jones ! Are you having a laugh. Absolutely clueless. Got within 25 yards of their goal and either lost it or gave it away cheaply. He was appalling.
That game tonight was a mirror image of the last 20 minutes of the game at Swansea the other week. 98% possession with not one clue what to do with it.
Yes we should have finished better, most notably Boselli and Gomez, but the fact is we didn’t. Yes we had 20-odd shots, but should have 60+ given the possession we had.
We cannot break teams down when teams sit back and concentrating on defending. It is very very frustrating.
Are you another mon that only shows his face when we’ve lost then?
I’ll say it again, Jones was superb and at the centre of everything good tonight. goodpostNot a clue what do do with the possession? I’ll tell you what we did, we created 6 or 7 gilt edge chances only to squander the fekin lot. on another day we score 5 or 6. Don’t tell me they were clueless, shyte finishing yes, clueless NO!
From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!I suggest if you didn’t go to the game then shut the * up!
Implying that only if people went to the game they only know how we played. If you don’t go to a funeral you still know what has happened. The debate is the weakened team, Not more excuses on why they didn’t win or indeed score again. We have heard it for a long time now. If a professional sportsman who get’s paid for keeping fit can’t manage more than 38 games a season then its time to pack it in. Priorities my arse, Whatever game it is there is no need to rest players. I could manage a game every 2 or 3 days all year.[/quote]
But at least we won’t have any soft tissue injuries for our relegation struggle, every cloud eh?
Some people will just not hear a bad word against Latics because they went to Netherfield in 1764, Some people just cannot debate because they just see the good in everything blue and white. Life must be a breeze.
No i’m not one who shows when we’ve lost. We’ve done plenty of that already this season.
So JR, you think we did well creating 6 or 7 ‘guilt edged chances’ (debatable) with all the possession and play we had? Honestly? Against Bradford (and no disrespect intended there)?
“Jones was superb and at the centre of everything good tonight”. Get real.
Some people will just not hear a bad word against Latics because they went to Netherfield in 1764, Some people just cannot debate because they just see the good in everything blue and white. Life must be a breeze.Positive things happen to positive people ;)
e.g. Last season when the same people on here were prematurely writing us off.
I suggest if you didn’t go to the game then shut the * up!
Implying that only if people went to the game they only know how we played. If you don’t go to a funeral you still know what has happened. The debate is the weakened team, Not more excuses on why they didn’t win or indeed score again. We have heard it for a long time now. If a professional sportsman who get’s paid for keeping fit can’t manage more than 38 games a season then its time to pack it in. Priorities my arse, Whatever game it is there is no need to rest players. I could manage a game every 2 or 3 days all year.[/quote]
That’s not the full story Yosser.Yes players are rested to prevent injuries, but more to the point, the League Cup is used as a competitive run out for fringe players – to see how they shape up and who’s worth a go in the first team.
Very disappointing.
Chance of a good cup run (favourable next round draw, min. semi-finalist) gone to pot.
Had the early goal stood, would no doubt have been a different outcome. But the longer the game went on, the more you couldn’t envisage us scoring if we played till same time tomorrow.
On tonight’s evidence, Kone /Di Santo have absolutely nothing to fear, competition-wise (Bosselli, Gomez). Don’t understand why Kone wasn’t thrown on before the 90 were up, to inject a little pace and give us a goal threat.
Sat in the West Stand this evening, was a little surprised at full-time during the changeover that Bobby didn’t even address his players (tactics, motivational chat etc.). Was either feeling remarkably chilled (questionable logic) or couldn’t be ars*d.
Fyvie – carrying excess, industrious,little way to go to hit PL standard
Redmond – good performance, tidy player.Positive things happen to positive people ;)Tell that to the soldiers with limbs missing, Or families devastated with cancer.
Didn’t mean that flippantly, Just sayin ;)
EDIT:- Or honest, skilled workers who keep losing their job due to industry cuts
Positive things happen to positive people ;)
Tell that to the soldiers with limbs missing, Or families devastated with cancer.
Didn’t mean that flippantly, Just sayin ;)
EDIT:- Or honest, skilled workers who keep losing their job due to industry cuts
:whistle:[/quote]Not quite in the same context as the point I was making …
Taking into account all the above some people can get so over dramatic about a game of football its unreal.
A little perspective says we should be very thankful for what we have as a club and not spit our dummies out at every opportunity.
Positive things happen to positive people ;)
Tell that to the soldiers with limbs missing, Or families devastated with cancer.
Didn’t mean that flippantly, Just sayin ;)
EDIT:- Or honest, skilled workers who keep losing their job due to industry cuts
:whistle:[/quote]Not quite in the same context as the point I was making …
Taking into account all the above some people can get so over dramatic about a game of football its unreal.
A little perspective says we should be very thankful for what we have as a club and not spit our dummies out at every opportunity.[/quote]
Bollocks Salford, not only should we spit our dummies out, we should all march down to the ground and protest………….oh wait…………we couldn’t even be arsed going down the ground to watch the game that were moaning about……………Nevermind then…………let’s just carry on moaning on here then, bloody rubbish Martinez, you bloody clown!!!
Wow, a few negative comments and the ‘How dare you say anything negative about Latics’ brigade come out in force. I didn’t realise that it was against the law to do such a crime. It’s ok for Martinez to be negative with his team selection but how dare the fans say anything about it when it’s all done against a Bradford second string., When they have played well, won well, scored well i congratulate them. When they have been shit i will say they have been shit. I think im going to switch boards, The ‘shove it up Wigan’s arse’ brigade are impossible to talk with. One sided and one dimensional views all the time. I will just pop on for the prediction league.
Laters
I’ve deliberately waited till this morning to post my thoughts about last night. Others don’t, that’s their perogative, but when it’s particularly bad a few deep breaths and a good night’s sleep are needed.
Yes, of course, that performance was abysmal. They looked like a team who have never played together. Hang on – they haven’t. That’s what’s wrong with this Under-23 development stuff. You no longer have a reserve team as such. What Roberto I think got wrong, and I am a big fan of his but he does get things wrong, is in making wholesale changes so that there was no core who could play together. However, he did have a strong bench – but mistake 2 was in not using it to its full advantage.
Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea etc field second string players, but then bring on the big guns when things aren’t going right. We had Maloney, Beausejour and Kone on the bench who had they been brought on together could have changed the pattern of the game.
Individually I agree with JR that Jones had a good game. He made more mistakes than I would have liked for a star performance, but he controlled the middle well. Stam started off well, but lacked the will to chase and pressurise their defence. They did string 6 across the back most of the time, so we needed that adventure to get behind them.
Boselli’s finishing was woeful. I’m sure he knows it. If he had taken one or two chances earlier we could have got a hatful. He didn’t and we didn’t.
Gomez and Watson haven’t learnt. It was deja vue back to when they had first team places a year or so ago. Sideways, back, slow, stop. No real footballing brains, I’m afraid. And Watson is never ever a centre back. If he’d played Jones there I’d have understood the logic better.
Fyvie was anonymous, Redmond OK if a little chunky. Not ready for PL. I hope for better from McManaman.
To be fair to Roberto (and I’m really not trying to “take the positives” – there are few if any) when I went to one of his discussion meetings he said that what he looked for was possession and creating openings and chances. He could do nothing about finishing. That’s down to the strikers.
We created the chances. To that extent his tactics and team selection were OK. We had a team out that could have, and should have, beaten Bradford probably comfortably. We didn’t. Maybe as I’ve said above he should have brought Kone on, but he presumably had his reasons. Maybe that it only needed one chance to go in and all would be forgiven. Personally I’d have brought Kone in to play alongside Boselli, but unlike most on here I am no expert (after all I’ve only been watching live football since 1969) so what do I know.
Someone talked of “contempt”. I think we showed contempt to Bradford, and as is not uncommon with such games underestimated them. We still however created enough chances to win the game.
I will say little of the penalties except to say that Gomez didn’t look interested in his run up or the way he took it.
Isnt it a shame that a light hearted forum soon becomes a vehicle for foul mouth insults ?Post an opinion that doesnt tow the line and out comes Jrfatfan with his “shut the f*** up “,moaning t***s,and stupid g**.Followed closely by Salford with his less foul but still insulting “cretins “.Whatever peoples opinions its not difficult to reign in the language and to respect everyones opinions ,just tap some different keys !!!
Wow, a few negative comments and the ‘How dare you say anything negative about Latics’ brigade come out in force. I didn’t realise that it was against the law to do such a crime. It’s ok for Martinez to be negative with his team selection but how dare the fans say anything about it when it’s all done against a Bradford second string., When they have played well, won well, scored well i congratulate them. When they have been shit i will say they have been shit. I think im going to switch boards, The ‘shove it up Wigan’s arse’ brigade are impossible to talk with. One sided and one dimensional views all the time. I will just pop on for the prediction league.Laters
Come on Yosser no need to take your toys in.
I am all for different views, debate and everything else that goes with coming on a football message board.
But quite frankly if someone nails us on for relegation after the second string team lose in a different competition then I think it is in the spirit of the above to call someone out and ask them what they are basing such rash comments on.
It gives me great satisfaction when that person starts crying like a little girl because they have been called a cretin in what was clearly said in jest and whining they can’t have an opinion because someone has asked the reasoning behind it…
Classic signs of an argument that has been lost before it begun.
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