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8 August 2013 at 11:01 pm #119062
See it makes it debut at Wembley on Sunday.
Shame SAF has retired. Would have loved to have seen his face if we got the 1st hawkeye confirmed goal to beat them :lol:
Provided the system works properly, I’m all in favour of using technology. Key thing for the game is the correct decision is made….
9 August 2013 at 2:08 am #119071About time the FA joined the 21st century – just a shame they’ve focused on a complete red herring, and now bought themselves at least another 5, probably 10 years before having to introduce any further tech.
How many times last season was there controversy over a goal crossing the line vs goals incorrectly allowed/disallowed for offsides, fouls, etc? The latter is where technology such as video replay is desperately needed.
9 August 2013 at 4:27 pm #119102See it makes it debut at Wembley on Sunday.Shame SAF has retired. Would have loved to have seen his face if we got the 1st hawkeye confirmed goal to beat them :lol:
Provided the system works properly, I’m all in favour of using technology. Key thing for the game is the correct decision is made….
All very well until the first decision is shown to be wrong, for whatever reason, and there will be a campaign to take it out.
Even the company who provides the technology say it isnt 100%.
9 August 2013 at 5:53 pm #119108See it makes it debut at Wembley on Sunday.
Shame SAF has retired. Would have loved to have seen his face if we got the 1st hawkeye confirmed goal to beat them :lol:
Provided the system works properly, I’m all in favour of using technology. Key thing for the game is the correct decision is made….
All very well until the first decision is shown to be wrong, for whatever reason, and there will be a campaign to take it out.
Even the company who provides the technology say it isnt 100%.[/quote]
Exactly my last point. The decision must be correct.
Technology giving us the wrong decision is worse than no technology at all imho :(
9 August 2013 at 6:49 pm #119111About time the FA joined the 21st century – just a shame they’ve focused on a complete red herring, and now bought themselves at least another 5, probably 10 years before having to introduce any further tech.How many times last season was there controversy over a goal crossing the line vs goals incorrectly allowed/disallowed for offsides, fouls, etc? The latter is where technology such as video replay is desperately needed.
The introduction of technology into offside & fouls would turn football into an absolute farce.
Besides which it quite simply wouldn’t work at all for fouls – There’s far too much interpretation involved in determining football fouls & I’ve run the line at games where a ref’s penalised a challenge that I’ve seen absolutely nowt wrong with.
You could have all the replays you want & it won’t settle whether a challenge is a foul or not for everyone who saw it.Then there’s the timing of it – if the ref thinks a fould may have been committed, at what point does he review it? Straight away? But what happens if he’s wrong & the team in possession of the ball have been penalised when they did nowt wrong? Does he wait till the next break in play? That could be several minutes away & if it was a foul does the clock get set back to what it was when the foul was committed?
I’ve heard it suggested that you could have someone watching the game & radioing down that a foul/offside has been missed. The ref would lose complete control of the game if the players thought someone else was making all his decisions for himleave it as it is
9 August 2013 at 6:55 pm #119112About time the FA joined the 21st century – just a shame they’ve focused on a complete red herring, and now bought themselves at least another 5, probably 10 years before having to introduce any further tech.
How many times last season was there controversy over a goal crossing the line vs goals incorrectly allowed/disallowed for offsides, fouls, etc? The latter is where technology such as video replay is desperately needed.
The introduction of technology into offside & fouls would turn football into an absolute farce.
Besides which it quite simply wouldn’t work at all for fouls – There’s far too much interpretation involved in determining football fouls & I’ve run the line at games where a ref’s penalised a challenge that I’ve seen absolutely nowt wrong with.
You could have all the replays you want & it won’t settle whether a challenge is a foul or not for everyone who saw it.Then there’s the timing of it – if the ref thinks a fould may have been committed, at what point does he review it? Straight away? But what happens if he’s wrong & the team in possession of the ball have been penalised when they did nowt wrong? Does he wait till the next break in play? That could be several minutes away & if it was a foul does the clock get set back to what it was when the foul was committed?
I’ve heard it suggested that you could have someone watching the game & radioing down that a foul/offside has been missed. The ref would lose complete control of the game if the players thought someone else was making all his decisions for himleave it as it is[/quote]
Bob on! Over the goal line or not is about as far as we should go, IMO.
9 August 2013 at 7:07 pm #119114Problem is if the referees are on the pitch making wrong decisions and someone sat watching on a television screen can see it clear as day then when does it become common sense to have that referee sat in front of the TV instead of flogging it around the pitch sometimes missing events completely?
I don’t think the game is ready for it yet but as technology improves the modern game should take advantage of it instead of ignoring opportunities to improve refereeing that has been under criticism for years.
9 August 2013 at 7:09 pm #119115About time the FA joined the 21st century – just a shame they’ve focused on a complete red herring, and now bought themselves at least another 5, probably 10 years before having to introduce any further tech.
How many times last season was there controversy over a goal crossing the line vs goals incorrectly allowed/disallowed for offsides, fouls, etc? The latter is where technology such as video replay is desperately needed.
The introduction of technology into offside & fouls would turn football into an absolute farce.
Besides which it quite simply wouldn’t work at all for fouls – There’s far too much interpretation involved in determining football fouls & I’ve run the line at games where a ref’s penalised a challenge that I’ve seen absolutely nowt wrong with.
You could have all the replays you want & it won’t settle whether a challenge is a foul or not for everyone who saw it.Then there’s the timing of it – if the ref thinks a fould may have been committed, at what point does he review it? Straight away? But what happens if he’s wrong & the team in possession of the ball have been penalised when they did nowt wrong? Does he wait till the next break in play? That could be several minutes away & if it was a foul does the clock get set back to what it was when the foul was committed?
I’ve heard it suggested that you could have someone watching the game & radioing down that a foul/offside has been missed. The ref would lose complete control of the game if the players thought someone else was making all his decisions for himleave it as it is[/quote]
Bob on! Over the goal line or not is about as far as we should go, IMO.[/quote]
And Sky would have nothing to bore us all to death with.
9 August 2013 at 9:25 pm #119126About time the FA joined the 21st century – just a shame they’ve focused on a complete red herring, and now bought themselves at least another 5, probably 10 years before having to introduce any further tech.
How many times last season was there controversy over a goal crossing the line vs goals incorrectly allowed/disallowed for offsides, fouls, etc? The latter is where technology such as video replay is desperately needed.
The introduction of technology into offside & fouls would turn football into an absolute farce.
Besides which it quite simply wouldn’t work at all for fouls – There’s far too much interpretation involved in determining football fouls & I’ve run the line at games where a ref’s penalised a challenge that I’ve seen absolutely nowt wrong with.
You could have all the replays you want & it won’t settle whether a challenge is a foul or not for everyone who saw it.Then there’s the timing of it – if the ref thinks a fould may have been committed, at what point does he review it? Straight away? But what happens if he’s wrong & the team in possession of the ball have been penalised when they did nowt wrong? Does he wait till the next break in play? That could be several minutes away & if it was a foul does the clock get set back to what it was when the foul was committed?
I’ve heard it suggested that you could have someone watching the game & radioing down that a foul/offside has been missed. The ref would lose complete control of the game if the players thought someone else was making all his decisions for himleave it as it is[/quote]
Cricket and Rugby League have natural breaks after a ball has been bowled/after a tackle. Football does not.I agree with you. They’d have to keep stopping play and it would ruin the game.
9 August 2013 at 9:27 pm #119127About time the FA joined the 21st century – just a shame they’ve focused on a complete red herring, and now bought themselves at least another 5, probably 10 years before having to introduce any further tech.
How many times last season was there controversy over a goal crossing the line vs goals incorrectly allowed/disallowed for offsides, fouls, etc? The latter is where technology such as video replay is desperately needed.
The introduction of technology into offside & fouls would turn football into an absolute farce.
Besides which it quite simply wouldn’t work at all for fouls – There’s far too much interpretation involved in determining football fouls & I’ve run the line at games where a ref’s penalised a challenge that I’ve seen absolutely nowt wrong with.
You could have all the replays you want & it won’t settle whether a challenge is a foul or not for everyone who saw it.Then there’s the timing of it – if the ref thinks a fould may have been committed, at what point does he review it? Straight away? But what happens if he’s wrong & the team in possession of the ball have been penalised when they did nowt wrong? Does he wait till the next break in play? That could be several minutes away & if it was a foul does the clock get set back to what it was when the foul was committed?
I’ve heard it suggested that you could have someone watching the game & radioing down that a foul/offside has been missed. The ref would lose complete control of the game if the players thought someone else was making all his decisions for himleave it as it is[/quote]
Bob on! Over the goal line or not is about as far as we should go, IMO.[/quote]
And Sky would have nothing to bore us all to death with.[/quote]
They’d need to find new material to pad out shows. Imagine how often Whelan would be on there.10 August 2013 at 5:25 am #119141About time the FA joined the 21st century – just a shame they’ve focused on a complete red herring, and now bought themselves at least another 5, probably 10 years before having to introduce any further tech.
How many times last season was there controversy over a goal crossing the line vs goals incorrectly allowed/disallowed for offsides, fouls, etc? The latter is where technology such as video replay is desperately needed.
The introduction of technology into offside & fouls would turn football into an absolute farce.
leave it as it is[/quote]
I was kind of expecting that reaction to my post, so how about this then…
In today’s game millions of pounds, including our own club’s money, are risked due to human error and incorrectly allowed/disallowed goals. Ref’s today just aren’t as fast as the high stakes game being played by the 20 year old athletes in front of them.
So what about at least having a video replay if the ball goes in the back of the net? That’s a natural break isn’t it??
There’s plenty of time while the keeper is fishing it out, players are celebrating/complaining and making their way back to the centre circle to judge if the goal was legitimate or not (offside, handball, foul in the box, etc). And/or if a penalty is awarded.It wouldn’t slow down play and I reckon 90% of the time the decision would be easy to check on video.
Replays haven’t made a farce out of rugby union, tennis, cricket, etc. They’ve made the game more honest, more accurate and added to the excitement.
10 August 2013 at 12:21 pm #119145I would strongly disagree that they add to the excitement. In Rugby League it seems about half of the tries go to the video ref. Kinda makes cheering a try pretty pointless as you have to wait for a video board to confirm it.
What’s more exciting? Seeing the ball hitting the back of the net and going mad celebrating or mildly cheering before turning to a scoreboard for 2 minutes?
10 August 2013 at 12:41 pm #119146Agree with you galacTIC, the refs already have earpieces, if a vital game changing wrong decision is made, I’d like a fourth official watching a screen to be able to alert the ref then he can take a look if he wants to .
12 August 2013 at 1:20 pm #119195Agree with you galacTIC, the refs already have earpieces, if a vital game changing wrong decision is made, I’d like a fourth official watching a screen to be able to alert the ref then he can take a look if he wants to .Given that TV companies do hold I think a maximum of 20% of some Clubs, Man U was one of them a few years back, they cant be trusted to provide accurate interpretation of a decision in my mind.
Football seems to have survived with people not technology for a long time, just need to go with the flow !
Nice to see Wigan made a silent protest on Sunday by not going near the goal.
12 August 2013 at 3:06 pm #119205The decision was made to turn off the equipment in David de Gea’s goal in order to save on electricity !
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