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:angry: The bloke as gone down in my estimation,it looks like he is being told by the men in suits who he can and cant take to the euros,he is already on the slippery road to oblivion
Keeping his old mates at Anfield happy also.
Is it not now 6 LPool players in the squad, good going for a team that finished 37 points off the pace ?
It said it all when he made Stevie G the captain. :angry:
No matter how much I hate the twort, Scott Parker should have been given the armband. Gerrad for me is now plagued with injuries and didn’t feature too much for Liverpool last season. great, great player at his best, but seems way off that at the moment. :ohmy:
From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!Keeping his old mates at Anfield happy also.Is it not now 6 LPool players in the squad, good going for a team that finished 37 points off the pace ?
From what I heard the players wanted him out at Anfield so it seems strange he would side with the club. Either that or Liverpool bought most of the young players in this country in the last couple of years, so it makes sense to blood these players.
With Ferdinand, he has said no to him and decided to move on, the John Terry affair wont go away and no matter how they try to say it isnt related, we all know it is.
He wont change his mind now.
Shame that Wigan have no one even close to being in the poor squad, shows how bad our youth system is. 8 years int eh prem and nothing to show for it in the youth system (Apart from Baines)
calumn mcmanaman and noah dicko should feature more this season, and they have rakish bingham who has just signed pro forms. maybe lee nicholls will get on the bench now pollitt has retired?
we sufferd in the steve bruce era regarding the youth set up, as he was only interested in the first team.
calumn mcmanaman and noah dicko should feature more this season, and they have rakish bingham who has just signed pro forms. maybe lee nicholls will get on the bench now pollitt has retired?we sufferd in the steve bruce era regarding the youth set up, as he was only interested in the first team.
i think that it’s unfair to blame Steve Bruce for Latics poor youth set up.
It’s been a problem since Dave Whelan took over back in what 1995? If you’re a manager with a chairman who wants swift & rapid progression up the football league you’re gonna pump most of your resources into the first team coz you haven’t got the time to bring through youth coz he’ll kick you out of the door if the first team isn’t performing
I remember an interview Paul Jewell gave where he said that he told Whelan at his interview that he wasn’t bothered about the youth set up & his sole focus was the first team squad (for the above reasons).
Whelan’s change in focus from january 2009 onwards is the reason why this has now changed – Steve Bruce himself said (when the 2 Polish lads had signed professional deals) that youngsters like these were the future of Wigan Athletic.Also Callum McManaman was brought into the club whilst Steve Bruce was in charge if I’m not mistaken
calumn mcmanaman and noah dicko should feature more this season, and they have rakish bingham who has just signed pro forms. maybe lee nicholls will get on the bench now pollitt has retired?
we sufferd in the steve bruce era regarding the youth set up, as he was only interested in the first team.
i think that it’s unfair to blame Steve Bruce for Latics poor youth set up.
It’s been a problem since Dave Whelan took over back in what 1995? If you’re a manager with a chairman who wants swift & rapid progression up the football league you’re gonna pump most of your resources into the first team coz you haven’t got the time to bring through youth coz he’ll kick you out of the door if the first team isn’t performing
I remember an interview Paul Jewell gave where he said that he told Whelan at his interview that he wasn’t bothered about the youth set up & his sole focus was the first team squad (for the above reasons).
Whelan’s change in focus from january 2009 onwards is the reason why this has now changed – Steve Bruce himself said (when the 2 Polish lads had signed professional deals) that youngsters like these were the future of Wigan Athletic.Also Callum McManaman was brought into the club whilst Steve Bruce was in charge if I’m not mistaken[/quote]
Unfortunately Tyldesley, Bruce’s focus was purely on the first team and the youth set up did suffer under him. I know of kids who left Wigan disillusioned during the Bruce era, only to be welcomed at other north west clubs.Yes, he may have made those comments regarding the young Polish lads, but what else was he supposed to say when a mic is thrust under his nose?
As it transpires, they weren’t actually the future of Wigan, nor even Derby County or Reading as far as Cywka goes – which make you wonder if Bruce actually knew anything about either player.
It is probably understandable as Bruce didn’t see a long term future at Wigan and therefore was unlikely to focus on anything that would distract from the first team.
Unfortunately Tyldesley, Bruce’s focus was purely on the first team and the youth set up did suffer under him. I know of kids who left Wigan disillusioned during the Bruce era, only to be welcomed at other north west clubs.Yes, he may have made those comments regarding the young Polish lads, but what else was he supposed to say when a mic is thrust under his nose?
As it transpires, they weren’t actually the future of Wigan, nor even Derby County or Reading as far as Cywka goes – which make you wonder if Bruce actually knew anything about either player.
It is probably understandable as Bruce didn’t see a long term future at Wigan and therefore was unlikely to focus on anything that would distract from the first team.
I’m not saying that the youth set up didn’t suffer under Bruce. The point I was trying to make was that it has suffered under every manager since Whelan took over – not one manager from Deehan, Mathias, Rioch, Jewell, Hutchings & Bruce has put much focus on it.
How many players have progressed through the ranks in that time to become regulars? Off the top of my head, Leighton Baines. That’s 1 in 17 years. It may well have got worse under Steve Bruce, but it hasn’t been much kop for a long time – and that was the point I was trying to make. the poster I replied to seemed to be saying the poor youth set up was all Bruce’s fault & it wasn’t/isn’t. he was merely the last in a long line of managers who have neglected it. A stance I think was understandably given that the brief from above was to get results & progression as quickly as possible
A latics mate of mine who was a neighbour of the family of a Latics youth player (who made a couple of brief appearances) under Jewell didn’t have many complimentary things to say about Latics youth set up then either
With regards to Bruce’s comments about the Polish lads, I took them at the time (& in hindsight still think this) as Bruce making a thinly veiled statement that the way Latics recruited was going to change & it has. I didn’t specifically think he was referring to how great those 2 players were
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