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Whelan is having a nice glass of merlot now laughing his cock off at the demise of bruce and sunderland paid compo for him as well :P
and look what we pi$$ed the compensation on too
are you saying we are better off with Roberto than Bruce? They had similar records
Bruce – 98 games at Sunderland – Won 29, Drew 28, Lost 41
Martinex – 101 games at Wigan – Won 25, Drew 29, Lost 47Well what are we wating for. Lets get him back & let him finish the job he started
Bankrupting us :huh:Its incorrect to say that Steve Bruce bankrupted us.
Aside from the fact that the club was never bankrupt, Steve Bruce only spent the money that Dave Whelan told him that he could spend. Its not as if Whelan told him he had a transfer & wage budget of £10mill & Bruce went out, said sod it & spent £30mill instead.
Every manager we’ve ever had operates within the budgets that the club allows – its only Whelan decided 6 months before Bruce left that the business model the club had been operating wasn’t sustainable & decided to try & start making it self-sufficientI never mentioned we are better off with roberto than bruce,just that whelan must be having a chuckle that the man who deserted us for bigger and better shopping is now out of a job,as far as martinez goes i dont think he can cut the mustard at prem level.
as far as martinez goes i dont think he can cut the mustard at prem level.
And I think if you check back he has already cut the fckin mustard twice already.
aye oi reet you think that if it makes you happy
boring!!!!!!
its only Whelan decided 6 months before Bruce left that the business model the club had been operating wasn’t sustainable & decided to try & start making it self-sufficientAnd what a bloody good job he has made of it, too!
Its incorrect to say that Steve Bruce bankrupted us.Aside from the fact that the club was never bankrupt, Steve Bruce only spent the money that Dave Whelan told him that he could spend. Its not as if Whelan told him he had a transfer & wage budget of £10mill & Bruce went out, said sod it & spent £30mill instead.
Every manager we’ve ever had operates within the budgets that the club allows – its only Whelan decided 6 months before Bruce left that the business model the club had been operating wasn’t sustainable & decided to try & start making it self-sufficientI didn’t say he had bankrupted us, but if he came back now & run up the sort of losses he did when he was manager, we would be insolvent,specially now Whelan has converted his debt to equity.
You are right to say it is dependent on the chairman but the above results are comparing one manager Bruce who racked up £15m in losses in one year versus Martinez who is managing the club to break even.
Hes done better at Sunderland but racked up a whopping £28m losses there
it also stands to reason that if Martinez had £15m more to spend than Bruce his record might be better
It depends waht you want, a short term motivator who will get the club saddled with debt or someone will take a longer term view and rebuild the club from grass roots upwards whilst making it sustainable instead of being reliant on one man
aye oi reet you think that if it makes you happyWell mate, if you think he hasn’t survived two years in the Premier League then you’re even thicker than I already thought you were.
Its incorrect to say that Steve Bruce bankrupted us.
Aside from the fact that the club was never bankrupt, Steve Bruce only spent the money that Dave Whelan told him that he could spend. Its not as if Whelan told him he had a transfer & wage budget of £10mill & Bruce went out, said sod it & spent £30mill instead.
Every manager we’ve ever had operates within the budgets that the club allows – its only Whelan decided 6 months before Bruce left that the business model the club had been operating wasn’t sustainable & decided to try & start making it self-sufficientI didn’t say he had bankrupted us, but if he came back now & run up the sort of losses he did when he was manager, we would be insolvent,specially now Whelan has converted his debt to equity.
You are right to say it is dependent on the chairman but the above results are comparing one manager Bruce who racked up £15m in losses in one year versus Martinez who is managing the club to break even.
Hes done better at Sunderland but racked up a whopping £28m losses there
it also stands to reason that if Martinez had £15m more to spend than Bruce his record might be better
It depends waht you want, a short term motivator who will get the club saddled with debt or someone will take a longer term view and rebuild the club from grass roots upwards whilst making it sustainable instead of being reliant on one man[/quote]
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