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    Vat69Vat69
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      In yesterday’s programme, he was quoted as saying:

      “The only style that matters, is winning football”.

      I have nothing to add to that. Just think about it, and come to your own conclusion. Is he right? or is he wrong?

      I know what I think. But then I am one who thinks you should always play to your strengths and capabilities.

      #26425
      PrescottChris
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        Long ball merchants get nowhere.

        Allardyce’s Bolton got into the UEFA Cup that time. Otherwise, the top eight is usually populated by teams that play football, and the bottom half littered with those that scrap for points.

        I’ll accept defeats whilst playing passing football whilst we’re in a transitional period (I stress that this is a transitional period), rather than hoofing it about like mindless morons forever.

        #26428
        Vat69Vat69
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          Long ball merchants get nowhere.

          Allardyce’s Bolton got into the UEFA Cup that time. Otherwise, the top eight is usually populated by teams that play football, and the bottom half littered with those that scrap for points.

          I’ll accept defeats whilst playing passing football whilst we’re in a transitional period (I stress that this is a transitional period), rather than hoofing it about like mindless morons forever.

          Ok, I’ll accept your opinion, and I won’t ridicule or question it. I’ll just say that I’m not necessarily saying that we play ‘long ball’. I am merely suggesting that we don’t play a set-style and just go out and ‘mix it’, doing what has to be done, match by match. I think we are trying to be TOO deliberate at the moment.

          #26430
          PrescottChris
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            Ok, I’ll accept your opinion, and I won’t ridicule or question it. I’ll just say that I’m not necessarily saying that we play ‘long ball’. I am merely suggesting that we don’t play a set-style and just go out and ‘mix it’, doing what has to be done, match by match. I think we are trying to be TOO deliberate at the moment.

            Well, what do you mean by mix-it?

            #26440
            Vat69Vat69
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              Ok, I’ll accept your opinion, and I won’t ridicule or question it. I’ll just say that I’m not necessarily saying that we play ‘long ball’. I am merely suggesting that we don’t play a set-style and just go out and ‘mix it’, doing what has to be done, match by match. I think we are trying to be TOO deliberate at the moment.

              Well, what do you mean by mix-it?[/quote]

              I mean, rather than constantly have Kirkland throwing the ball out to Bramble, Caldwell, etc, and them then passing 5 or 6 passes across the back 4, have a bit of variation. It’s too telegraphed. Fact is, we seem to do all these little passes, and it comes to nothing. Our main threat in N’Zogbia. As soon as the opponents suss that, we are knackered.

              From day one, we’ve said there’s no plan B. That’s still apparent. I just think Roberto’s game plan is too ‘pure’. Even Chelsea play direct sometimes. Get Rodallega getting behind the defenders, the way he was doing last season, and maybe Moreno flicking on. (Remember? the way Rodallega would ‘get around’ defenders with his pace?) Use N’Zogbia’s pace as well.

              In the space of a year, we’ve got a squad of players that have gone from playing a direct style, looking for flick on’s, to get behind the back 4, to trying to play a deliberate build up from defence. No wonder we are struggling. It’s chalk and cheese.

              I think that’s what we need to work on, a bit of variation, as well as our corners and set pieces that have been disappointing.

              #26443
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                In yesterday’s programme, he was quoted as saying:

                “The only style that matters, is winning football”.

                I have nothing to add to that. Just think about it, and come to your own conclusion. Is he right? or is he wrong?

                I know what I think. But then I am one who thinks you should always play to your strengths and capabilities.

                Sure I’ve read this on another thread :shock:

                #26454
                SaredtJay Taylor
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                  I’m sure I’ve read it on more than just one thread :roll:

                  #26490
                  PrescottChris
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                    I mean, rather than constantly have Kirkland throwing the ball out to Bramble, Caldwell, etc, and them then passing 5 or 6 passes across the back 4, have a bit of variation. It’s too telegraphed. Fact is, we seem to do all these little passes, and it comes to nothing. Our main threat in N’Zogbia. As soon as the opponents suss that, we are knackered.

                    From day one, we’ve said there’s no plan B. That’s still apparent. I just think Roberto’s game plan is too ‘pure’. Even Chelsea play direct sometimes. Get Rodallega getting behind the defenders, the way he was doing last season, and maybe Moreno flicking on. (Remember? the way Rodallega would ‘get around’ defenders with his pace?) Use N’Zogbia’s pace as well.

                    In the space of a year, we’ve got a squad of players that have gone from playing a direct style, looking for flick on’s, to get behind the back 4, to trying to play a deliberate build up from defence. No wonder we are struggling. It’s chalk and cheese.

                    I think that’s what we need to work on, a bit of variation, as well as our corners and set pieces that have been disappointing.

                    I see what you’re saying, and in essence, I agree with you.

                    However, at the minute we don’t really have the squad to play any other way – primarily because our centre halves can’t pass a ball and no sod up front can head it.

                    Similar criticisms were aimed at Arsenal not long ago – they didn’t change their footballing ‘ethos’ or tactical masterplan, simply added players that were capable of mixing it – Arshavin, Nasri and Bendtner for example.

                    Right now, this is all we’ve got. At the start of the season, Bramble and Scharner were lambasted for continuously attempting to play the ball out from the back; they weren’t capable. Nor was their anybody competent in the air enough to get on the end of such balls (something which is still true).

                    Even if we went to a flat, traditional 4-4-2, we still end up with the problem that we’ve only got one proper winger (discounting Sinclair) and two strikers and Scotland. He’s built a side to play 4-2-3-1 with players that pass it about, and we are one-dimensional in our approach, but for me anyway, it’s the only approach we’ve got at the minute.

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