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    acefaceaaron yates
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    absolutly fookin disgustedeven sjoke broke the bank :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x if things dont improve the way things are money and job wise i wont be lining whelans pockets comeing up to crimbo, and when your slaughtering your own support mr whelan just remember you failed to come up with the goods on transfer day yet again

    #7609
    filmossfilmoss
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    Ya cant argue with that ! unless you wear the old rose tinted glasses ! %th season in Prem and look at our squad ! You CANNOT say that is a squad built up steadily from the fruits of labour. It is actually worse than the squad we came up with !

    #7675
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    Mate,

    The Promotion team of Bullard, Roberts, etc would tonk this lot 5-0.

    Kavanagh would rule the midfield, and I reckon Teale would rip Figueroa to pieces. Little Alan Mahon would be taking the mick, and Jackson and De Zeeuw would have a stroll against our ahem ‘dangermen’ upfront.

    Honest to god, when you look at it like that, doesn’t it concern you? Because it does me. Greatly.

    How ironic would it be, come May, at our final home game versus Hull, if Bullard played, ran the show….and scored the goal that relegated us? A long shot, but not impossible is it?

    #7684
    BobbyswiganBobbyswigan
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    Mate,

    The Promotion team of Bullard, Roberts, etc would tonk this lot 5-0.

    Kavanagh would rule the midfield, and I reckon Teale would rip Figueroa to pieces. Little Alan Mahon would be taking the mick, and Jackson and De Zeeuw would have a stroll against our ahem ‘dangermen’ upfront.

    Honest to god, when you look at it like that, doesn’t it concern you? Because it does me. Greatly.

    How ironic would it be, come May, at our final home game versus Hull, if Bullard played, ran the show….and scored the goal that relegated us? A long shot, but not impossible is it?

    Well Baines has put one nail in the coffin. Valencia has put another nail in the coffin. What odds, Roberts to score the winner against Balckburn, Palacios to run the midfield against Spurs and Cattermole to rule the midfield when we play Sunderland. Just to make it fair, Michael Brown scores winner against Pompey.

    #7687
    thtyoneyearswafctrevor hoy
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    Overeaction don’t you think :roll: :roll: :roll:

    #7796
    leecatterflapsmartyn h
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    Mate,

    The Promotion team of Bullard, Roberts, etc would tonk this lot 5-0.

    Kavanagh would rule the midfield, and I reckon Teale would rip Figueroa to pieces. Little Alan Mahon would be taking the mick, and Jackson and De Zeeuw would have a stroll against our ahem ‘dangermen’ upfront.

    Honest to god, when you look at it like that, doesn’t it concern you? Because it does me. Greatly.

    How ironic would it be, come May, at our final home game versus Hull, if Bullard played, ran the show….and scored the goal that relegated us? A long shot, but not impossible is it?

    Kavanagh ruling the midfield have you ever seen him play football? hes dump u really need to think before you post, or maybe you do and you just come out with shit cos ur a retard?

    jackson and de zeeuw imagine that now they wer slow as fk back in the day let alone now its not even worth thinking about and obviously you havnt thought about anything.

    #7797
    lewliganLew Whalley
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    Mate,

    The Promotion team of Bullard, Roberts, etc would tonk this lot 5-0.

    Kavanagh would rule the midfield, and I reckon Teale would rip Figueroa to pieces. Little Alan Mahon would be taking the mick, and Jackson and De Zeeuw would have a stroll against our ahem ‘dangermen’ upfront.

    Honest to god, when you look at it like that, doesn’t it concern you? Because it does me. Greatly.

    How ironic would it be, come May, at our final home game versus Hull, if Bullard played, ran the show….and scored the goal that relegated us? A long shot, but not impossible is it?

    Kavanagh ruling the midfield have you ever seen him play football? hes dump u really need to think before you post, or maybe you do and you just come out with whale cos ur a retard?

    jackson and de zeeuw imagine that now they wer slow as fk back in the day let alone now its not even worth thinking about and obviously you havnt thought about anything.[/quote]
    Too right mate…
    What a dogshit post that was.

    Teale to rip Figueroa apart??? :shock:
    Are you absolutely mental?
    Tell ya what… shove my mum in at left back against Teale and she’d probably keep him quiet.
    The guy was a pussy… bottled EVERY challenge I ever saw him go in for and he couldn’t beat his man to save his fkin life.
    Fig is an absolute beast of a left back – easily 1 of our best players.
    Anyone who can deal with Ronaldo on their prem debut is alright with me.

    Didnt even see the “Alan Mahon taking the mick” bit…
    Funny shit :lol:

    #7822
    PrescottChris
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    Our squad is considerably better than from the first season up.

    We now have a number of internationals and some genuine quality. We’ve lost Cattermole and Valencia – even if we haven’t replaced them properly, we’ve still got a good number of players left at the club which could get in the majority of Premier League sides.

    N’Zogbia
    Scharner
    Bramble
    Kirkland
    Rodallega
    Figueroa

    All exceptional players. Anybody that says Mahon, Bullard et al are better than those men is talking out of their arse. Diamé, Gómez and Thomas also provide alot of quality, and if things go as well for them as Bobby obiously thinks/hopes, then we’ll end up selling them for a massive profit in a year or two and the same “Whelan out!” crap will get bandied about again.

    Our squad is really getting an unfair press by some of you lot. It’s a bit small, but it certainly doesn’t lack quality. The only real problem that I can see is that we only have messrs Scotland and King as back-up to Rodallega, but otherwise, we have quality all over the pitch. (It’s probably worth noting that I think the only reason we didn’t bring in another striker is because we can’t shift King, not because of Whelan shying away from investing).

    If we are bottom at Christmas, it will be because of a lack of effectiveness from our style of play/tactics not because of a lack of ability. On paper, we have a better squad than Burnley, Hull, Bolton, Portsmouth, Wolves and Birmingham in my opinion.

    #7825
    Vat69Vat69
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    Ha Ha!!!

    You believe what you want to believe!!!.

    Deary me, what a bunch we have on here. It’s amazing. I can not believe that anybody can say that we have a better squad now, than in our first season.

    No wonder other people on certain sites laugh their balls off at this board, and the idiots on it. Christ, I know Teale was hit and miss, but in that team, he’d have ripped Figueroa to pieces. So you think that he’s a good left back do you? Jesus tonight. Well out of his depth. EDMAN is by far, a better defender. And a better player. Barry Knowles was Roberto Carlos, compared to Figueroa.

    Midfield? Do we have one? Thought we’d actually SOLD it? Yes, Kavanagh, Bullard, and McCulloch would have bossed it. Rather than the mess we have now. Two foreigners who we are taking a big chance on. They made Phil Neville look like Bryan Robson, on Sunday.

    It’s a mess. Admit it.

    #7827
    thtyoneyearswafctrevor hoy
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    Keep taking the pills Vat :roll: :roll: :roll:

    #7828
    Vat69Vat69
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    I’ll reply in May. ;)

    #7830
    PrescottChris
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    Ha Ha!!!

    You believe what you want to believe!!!.

    Deary me, what a bunch we have on here. It’s amazing. I can not believe that anybody can say that we have a better squad now, than in our first season.

    No wonder other people on certain sites laugh their balls off at this board, and the idiots on it. Christ, I know Teale was hit and miss, but in that team, he’d have ripped Figueroa to pieces. So you think that he’s a good left back do you? Jesus tonight. Well out of his depth. EDMAN is by far, a better defender. And a better player. Barry Knowles was Roberto Carlos, compared to Figueroa.

    Midfield? Do we have one? Thought we’d actually SOLD it? Yes, Kavanagh, Bullard, and McCulloch would have bossed it. Rather than the mess we have now. Two foreigners who we are taking a big chance on. They made Phil Neville look like Bryan Robson, on Sunday.

    It’s a mess. Admit it.

    Aren’t you the one that was berating us for signing Championship level players? And now you’re saying Kavanagh, Bullard and McCulloch would be a better Premiership midfield? Slight contradicition; that WAS a Championship side that we played with in the first season (and largely the same one that scraped 17th in the second). One thing that I will give you, we were alot more organised with that midfield, but again, that was down to the management and not the players.

    Teale was awful, you bafoon. Once in a while he’d hit a scorcher or complete a cross, but the fact that he’s since been playing at a sub-standard Derby who felt the need to loan him out to Barnsley and Plymouth says alot. Let’s not have the ‘cult-status’ that these players acquired hinder our judgement of them.

    Figueroa is very solid if unspectacular, Edman likewise. Even if you think that Edman is far better, that doesn’t detract from my arguement that we have a strong squad, does it? It just re-affirms that we now have two very good left-backs whereas in 05/06 we had a still learning Leighton Baines and who else? Was it the still crocked Steve McMillan? Oh, and Joey Waterhouse and on-loan Reto Ziegler, how could I forget those stalwarts.

    Midfield, do we have one? Yes. We do.

    Diamé, Thomas, Gómez, Koumas, Cho, N’Zogbia and Sinclair are the main components, some of them, although unproven as you rightly say, have looked like class-acts since joining us. Is the way we’re playing them at the minute which has made Phil Neville look like Bryan Robson working? No, it’s not. But then again, that isn’t a slant against their ability, but at the system that they’re employed in.

    #7834
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    Personally i dont think the squads too bad overall just weak in some areas.

    However i think that time has clouded opinions of that first prem year team.

    Id take Kirkland just before Filan and a 2005 Pollitt before a 2009 Pollitt however id take Kingson before Walsh everytime.

    Chimbonda was unknown player when he came and at 500k none of us expected what happened so id put him and melchiot equal.

    In the centre bar arry and stephanie the growler did great but id have bramble before Henchoz and Boyce before Jacko as he was getting too old and slow for rb and cb. Scharner this year hasnt been great however we all know how good he was last year!

    Lb would be a killer Baines is class but at the time people were still caling for mcmillan to get games. Figgy would get in before Sicknote although edman and mcmillan could share the treatment table (edmans through bad luck)

    Defensive Midfielder id take Thomas over Kav every time and id take Diame over Francis because even though they havent got much experience you can see that they are going to be the next 2 we sell to balance the books.

    Right Wing zoggy would beat Teale everytime but hes not a rw so id have to say teale would beat de ridder.

    In the centre Bullard would be first choice but lets not forget he ran all day but was annoying most of that season. Gomez wouldnt even get a look in but he may improve with time.

    Lw everytime your going to pick lee mc because as bad as he was upfront we looked stronger as a side with him in it. Saying that Zoggy would run him very close.

    Up front weve got no one bar rodders now so youd have to take roberts and camara.

    However looking at strength in depth and we are a lot stronger now than then. I mean David Wright cmon!

    Now dont mention last years team cos that would be a different cup of tea.

    #7838
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    Ha Ha!!!

    You believe what you want to believe!!!.

    Deary me, what a bunch we have on here. It’s amazing. I can not believe that anybody can say that we have a better squad now, than in our first season.

    No wonder other people on certain sites laugh their balls off at this board, and the idiots on it. Christ, I know Teale was hit and miss, but in that team, he’d have ripped Figueroa to pieces. So you think that he’s a good left back do you? Jesus tonight. Well out of his depth. EDMAN is by far, a better defender. And a better player. Barry Knowles was Roberto Carlos, compared to Figueroa.

    Midfield? Do we have one? Thought we’d actually SOLD it? Yes, Kavanagh, Bullard, and McCulloch would have bossed it. Rather than the mess we have now. Two foreigners who we are taking a big chance on. They made Phil Neville look like Bryan Robson, on Sunday.

    It’s a mess. Admit it.

    Aren’t you the one that was berating us for signing Championship level players? And now you’re saying Kavanagh, Bullard and McCulloch would be a better Premiership midfield? Slight contradicition; that WAS a Championship side that we played with in the first season (and largely the same one that scraped 17th in the second). One thing that I will give you, we were alot more organised with that midfield, but again, that was down to the management and not the players.

    Teale was awful, you bafoon. Once in a while he’d hit a scorcher or complete a cross, but the fact that he’s since been playing at a sub-standard Derby who felt the need to loan him out to Barnsley and Plymouth says alot. Let’s not have the ‘cult-status’ that these players acquired hinder our judgement of them.

    Figueroa is very solid if unspectacular, Edman likewise. Even if you think that Edman is far better, that doesn’t detract from my arguement that we have a strong squad, does it? It just re-affirms that we now have two very good left-backs whereas in 05/06 we had a still learning Leighton Baines and who else? Was it the still crocked Steve McMillan? Oh, and Joey Waterhouse and on-loan Reto Ziegler, how could I forget those stalwarts.

    Midfield, do we have one? Yes. We do.

    Diamé, Thomas, Gómez, Koumas, Cho, N’Zogbia and Sinclair are the main components, some of them, although unproven as you rightly say, have looked like class-acts since joining us. Is the way we’re playing them at the minute which has made Phil Neville look like Bryan Robson working? No, it’s not. But then again, that isn’t a slant against their ability, but at the system that they’re employed in.[/quote]

    Teale is currently playing a big role in Nigel Clough’s Derby side, so he can’t be that bad. You tell me who we have that is actually better?

    Go on, say N’Zogbia. Yes, but we paid 6 friggin million for him, and he looks noithing like worth it. And he’s on the wrong side. Who else? De Ridder? he reminds me of Beckham he does…………..

    I mean, the way he touches his Alice band, NOT the way he plays.

    Roberts would have ripped this defence to pieces, with sheer force alone.

    We’ll agree to disagree. But lets judge it on the end of the season. That team in the first season finished 10th. Where will this team finish?

    #7840
    PrescottChris
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    Teale is currently playing a big role in Nigel Clough’s Derby side, so he can’t be that bad. You tell me who we have that is actually better?

    Go on, say N’Zogbia. Yes, but we paid 6 friggin million for him, and he looks noithing like worth it. And he’s on the wrong side. Who else? De Ridder? he reminds me of Beckham he does…………..

    I mean, the way he touches his Alice band, NOT the way he plays.

    Roberts would have ripped this defence to pieces, with sheer force alone.

    We’ll agree to disagree. But lets judge it on the end of the season. That team in the first season finished 10th. Where will this team finish?

    N’Zogbia has looked alright for me. His drive and pass set up Koumas against Villa, and he doesn’t have to be like-for-like so him being on the wrong side is redundant. I’d rather have de Ridder in the side than Teale, despite his level of ineptitude. Teale was half-decent in the Championship but looked completely out of his depth in the Premiership. Oh, and Scott Sinclair is twice the player of Gary Teale, and he is like-for-like.

    Roberts would have ripped this defence to peices through force alone? Heskey and Agbonlahor probably make-up the strongest and quickest strikeforce in the Premiership and they barely got a sniff. Roberts has played against Man City, Sunderland and West Ham so far this season and has failed to score – or look even remotely threatening according to a Blackburn supporting friend of mine. Seven goals in twenty-six games last season suggest that he’s not showing the clincial, talismanic form of our Championship promotion season.

    We’ll agree to disagree, because it’s a subjective arguement. And I don’t think we’ll finish 10th, but because of the way we play not because of the players that we have.

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