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Just got back in from Manchester.
How on earth can anybody assess that today? As far as Latics performance goes, I can only judge it on the first 45 mins. We were fine, played some nice football, had a couple of wayward efforts, and looked highly capable of getting something from the game, against a distinctly very average, United side, who only slightly threatened us. We looked well on for getting something. And then it happened. Right on half-time they nicked a goal. It was a poor one to concede, with Evra heading in on the back post.(Poor marking there, Ronnie Stam)
So we went in at half-time a goal down. Harshly. But still, I felt we could get something from the game. But I forgot to mention that in a mad 10 minute spell in the first half, the referee (not sure who he was?) went card crazy on Latics, flashing several yellow cards, when United players got away with identical fouls. (how typical) And then in the second half, Alcaraz, one of the booked players, did a foul well out of any danger area, out towards the wing, and he was shown a second yellow. I think it was very harsh. (I’ve not seen the replay yet)
At that point it was clear to see we’d come away with nothing. This was confirmed a few minutes later, when Rodallega received a straight red for a sliding tackle. Ok, it DID look like he went in with feet raised, but he seemed to slide for an eternity beforehand, on a pitch that had been heavily watered at half time. (Why?)
So down to nine players. They chucked Rooney on, and that Chicken-tikka fella. Rooney had one header that Ali saved, and United tried their best to set him up for a ‘glory moment’. But it was Chicken-Tikka who stole in to score a second. And that was game over. We left 5 mins from the end, to avoid the Manc throng on the tram, but were stunned to see that about 20,000 home fans had alsoleft early. Unbelievable. Terrible, terrible, fans. How would they go on watching a struggling team?Met several of their fans today, none of whom were from Manchester. (St Albans, Kent, London, Blackburn, Oslo) It’s true. It’s gloryhunter central. Awful, awful bunch. The only REAL Mancs I saw were that lot selling scarves and dodgy souvenirs along Warwick Road/Sir Matt Busby Way.
It’s really opened our eyes as to how United really is as a club. It’s also opened our eyes that Latics DO NOT belong in this ‘greed-league’, and it really may be the time for us to go down. My dad and I SERIOUSLY feel we would enjoy the Championship more, rather than playing against 12 men and hardly winning any games. It get’s a little ‘old’ after 6 seasons.
As for the ale today, a good day. 9 bottles of ‘Desperado’ amongst other things. Nice drink that. Good brekky this morning in’t ‘Moon’, and a good tea at ‘Chiquito’ tonight.
As for the red cards, Alcaraz one match, Rodallega three. :(
They were both Red Cards.. No arguments. Nani should have been booked in the first half and made fouls after it!! ..
I agree Desperados is nice :) The stuff about wanting us to go down is idiotic.
They were both Red Cards.. No arguments. Nani should have been booked in the first half and made fouls after it!! ..I agree Desperados is nice :) The stuff about wanting us to go down is idiotic.
No it isn’t. And I stood on Springfield “when we had 1000 on”.
It’s a load of shoite this Premiership. It’s boring. It’s a rip-off. We’ve done well over the past 5 years, but I think now is the time we will go down. I’m not having a go at Martinez and the players. In fact, I’ve been really impressed in how we have comeon recently. But when the ref gives you nothing, and nobody wants you in the league anyway….
…sod it.
They were both Red Cards.. No arguments. Nani should have been booked in the first half and made fouls after it!! ..I agree Desperados is nice :) The stuff about wanting us to go down is idiotic.
Sorry James C but if this mon continues with his 1 upfront policy were going down!.Its not working Bobby for f@ck sake get someone upfront with Hugo.
Just got back in from Manchester.How on earth can anybody assess that today? As far as Latics performance goes, I can only judge it on the first 45 mins. We were fine, played some nice football, had a couple of wayward efforts, and looked highly capable of getting something from the game, against a distinctly very average, United side, who only slightly threatened us. We looked well on for getting something. And then it happened. Right on half-time they nicked a goal. It was a poor one to concede, with Evra heading in on the back post.(Poor marking there, Ronnie Stam)
So we went in at half-time a goal down. Harshly. But still, I felt we could get something from the game. But I forgot to mention that in a mad 10 minute spell in the first half, the referee (not sure who he was?) went card crazy on Latics, flashing several yellow cards, when United players got away with identical fouls. (how typical) And then in the second half, Alcaraz, one of the booked players, did a foul well out of any danger area, out towards the wing, and he was shown a second yellow. I think it was very harsh. (I’ve not seen the replay yet)
At that point it was clear to see we’d come away with nothing. This was confirmed a few minutes later, when Rodallega received a straight red for a sliding tackle. Ok, it DID look like he went in with feet raised, but he seemed to slide for an eternity beforehand, on a pitch that had been heavily watered at half time. (Why?)
So down to nine players. They chucked Rooney on, and that Chicken-tikka fella. Rooney had one header that Ali saved, and United tried their best to set him up for a ‘glory moment’. But it was Chicken-Tikka who stole in to score a second. And that was game over. We left 5 mins from the end, to avoid the Manc throng on the tram, but were stunned to see that about 20,000 home fans had alsoleft early. Unbelievable. Terrible, terrible, fans. How would they go on watching a struggling team?Met several of their fans today, none of whom were from Manchester. (St Albans, Kent, London, Blackburn, Oslo) It’s true. It’s gloryhunter central. Awful, awful bunch. The only REAL Mancs I saw were that lot selling scarves and dodgy souvenirs along Warwick Road/Sir Matt Busby Way.
It’s really opened our eyes as to how United really is as a club. It’s also opened our eyes that Latics DO NOT belong in this ‘greed-league’, and it really may be the time for us to go down. My dad and I SERIOUSLY feel we would enjoy the Championship more, rather than playing against 12 men and hardly winning any games. It get’s a little ‘old’ after 6 seasons.
As for the ale today, a good day. 9 bottles of ‘Desperado’ amongst other things. Nice drink that. Good brekky this morning in’t ‘Moon’, and a good tea at ‘Chiquito’ tonight.
As for the red cards, Alcaraz one match, Rodallega three. :(
I agree with you on us enjoying the Championship more. I used to love and really enjoy going to every game. I mean I always excited. Now I’m just so nervous going into every game, I can barely enjoy it :?
Anyway, I’ll carrying on watching them no matter what but I wouldn’t be too gutted if we got relegated.James,
Watch the Alcaraz tackle again as an action replay and take note of Fletcher’s loss of feeling in his legs after sensing the slide coming his way.
You’ll also notice Alcaraz actually doesn’t touch him and his complaints of “dive” were quite valid.
Just watched the first game on MOTD and turned it off. Bale did similiar to Fletcher but more obvious in which the free-kick led to their third goal.
They were both Red Cards.. No arguments. Nani should have been booked in the first half and made fouls after it!! ..
I agree Desperados is nice :) The stuff about wanting us to go down is idiotic.
Sorry James C but if this mon continues with his 1 upfront policy were going down!.Its not working Bobby for f@ck sake get someone upfront with Hugo.[/quote]
No you got me wrong this time, I didn’t say we wont go down, (I don’t think we will, but this is a different matter) I was saying that him wanting us to go down is stupid!
They were both Red Cards.. No arguments. Nani should have been booked in the first half and made fouls after it!! ..
I agree Desperados is nice :) The stuff about wanting us to go down is idiotic.
Sorry James C but if this mon continues with his 1 upfront policy were going down!.Its not working Bobby for f@ck sake get someone upfront with Hugo.[/quote]
No you got me wrong this time, I didn’t say we wont go down, (I don’t think we will, but this is a different matter) I was saying that him wanting us to go down is stupid![/quote]
James, in the last 5/6 seasons, I’ve gone from being football mad, to almost walking away from the game.
I’ve hated the Premiership, since about January of our first season.
You support a team because you want them to do well.. Surely? .. Not wanting them to do badly and get relegated!
I can understand people saying that they dont enjoy the Premiership, its not the be all and end all, its not competitive over a season for clubs like ours. I just wonder what those fans reactions would be if we werent near the top of the Championship around this time of the year, if and when we go down, regardless of style of play, manager etc.
Would those same fans who would almost welcome relegation, want us to be winning more games to get us in contention for promotion to the league they dont enjoy?
I can understand people saying that they dont enjoy the Premiership, its not the be all and end all, its not competitive over a season for clubs like ours. I just wonder what those fans reactions would be if we werent near the top of the Championship around this time of the year, if and when we go down, regardless of style of play, manager etc.Would those same fans who would almost welcome relegation, want us to be winning more games to get us in contention for promotion to the league they dont enjoy?
Very good point Abram.. Don’t say if and when we go down.. We are NOT going down!!
In reply to your first comment VAT,
The referee went card crazy after giving us 3 last warnings for stupid fouls.
Alcaraz deserved to go.
Rodellega deserved to go straight red.
Today Wigan were very average in the first half but looked good value for heading in at 0-0 against a poor United side. The difference was our dodgy right side and Alcaraz out of position twice in the first half.
Yes they got a goal, but the first 8 minutes of the second we looked ok on the ball. Gomez was negative during two attacks which didnt help.
After the first red, we were in trouble but has we carried on with 8 defenders things didnt really change and we tried to make it difficult for them to break us down.
The most frustrating thing, if we had gone for United today, I honestly think we may have rattled them and had a chance of a little more than a point. Maybe a more positive manager would have had a go today.
I must also comment on our support today, the following of around 400 was awful to see, I know its expensive etc but we should be taking more than that!!! well done to everyone who went though.
I bet I’m not on my own in thinking I could have written a pretty accurate match report of that game….. on Friday.
Ha ha!!
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