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Let me start this by saying I rarely post. I’m just so annoyed at the moment I need to write down what I see are fundamental, and obvious, problems in my team. By that I do not mean that Gary Caldwell is the slowest footballer in the EPL – we know it and have documented it at lot already.
Today at Wolves yet again the fans did not get on Roberto’s back. I agree – I want him to succeed at Wigan, he has the club and town at heart. His is own of ours and I want “ours” to do well. We’re different to Blackburn and I like that but I do not know how long we will be.
Let me say I expect to go down. Collectively we are not good enough. In a good team it is bigger than the sum of the individuals, our team is less than than the total of the players, and there has to be a reason for that. Roberto has to shoulder some if not most of the blame.Where do I think we go wrong? For me it’s in pairings and strength.
Centre back – we’ve got Caldwell, Gohouri, Alcaraz, Lopez and sometimes Boyce or Figeuroa. We’ve not had a stable back 4 (thanks to the summer South American tournament). We do not have a good combination in them. We used to have Scharner-Bramble-Boyce only two years ago and knew that the combinations generally worked: they understood each other. That’s no more. Caldwell is good when facing the ball, but slow as hell and plays too many risky balls. Alcaraz has the speed but same problem about getting caught. We have turned “overkill” into an art form in terms of passing from the back. It bores the hell out of me and generates more raving hearts than is good for a crowd. At least today we stopped that.
Midfield – no central partnership that works. The big disaster for me is Watson-Jones. It’s not working. Watson is the only midfielder we have (apart from the odd Gomez moment) who can deliver a killer pass (think the one to Salmon against West Ham). Since Jones has played Watson’s been pushed back – we’ve lost him going forward. For me it is one or the other and Watson wins. Diame is our star of the season. We never tackle, we intercept, we scare no one here.
Forward line – no partnership again. Rodallega clearly the biggest threat – but who does he interact with? He had a good relationship with N’Zogbia, but there’s no interplay with Di Santa or Moses. Just know he is really on his own, and he’s not good enough to do that. Moses beats a guy and then is stuck for his next move and we’re slow to get people into the box even if he wasn’t stuck. Di Santa is energetic and tries, but he’s really a one trick pony. Do you ever see him 1-2 with anyone? So we have forwards who are all individuals, no pairings. Hugo coming back late meant ther was no pre season chance to try a pairing out – another consequence of the summer cup in
What do I suggest? We need solid pairings in defence, midfield and up front – a singleton up there and we’re at Watford next season, it’s simple as that.
Up front I would go Rodellega-Sammon as they do try to interlink and probably the most compatible.
Midfield – Watson and Thomas as centre pairing – we need to win the ball – Thomas tackles albeit not always when the ball is still there. With Diame in there of course.
Centre back – Alcaraz and Boyce would be my preference but that leaves Stam at right back and he goes missing – so Alcaraz and Lopez who is not slower than Caldwell and might at least communicate with Alcaraz. Not ideal but best of the risky bunch.
Ok – now shoot me down!
Let me start this by saying I rarely post. I’m just so annoyed at the moment I need to write down what I see are fundamental, and obvious, problems in my team. By that I do not mean that Gary Caldwell is the slowest footballer in the EPL – we know it and have documented it at lot already.Today at Wolves yet again the fans did not get on Roberto’s back. I agree – I want him to succeed at Wigan, he has the club and town at heart. His is own of ours and I want “ours” to do well. We’re different to Blackburn and I like that but I do not know how long we will be.
Let me say I expect to go down. Collectively we are not good enough. In a good team it is bigger than the sum of the individuals, our team is less than than the total of the players, and there has to be a reason for that. Roberto has to shoulder some if not most of the blame.Where do I think we go wrong? For me it’s in pairings and strength.
Centre back – we’ve got Caldwell, Gohouri, Alcaraz, Lopez and sometimes Boyce or Figeuroa. We’ve not had a stable back 4 (thanks to the summer South American tournament). We do not have a good combination in them. We used to have Scharner-Bramble-Boyce only two years ago and knew that the combinations generally worked: they understood each other. That’s no more. Caldwell is good when facing the ball, but slow as hell and plays too many risky balls. Alcaraz has the speed but same problem about getting caught. We have turned “overkill” into an art form in terms of passing from the back. It bores the hell out of me and generates more raving hearts than is good for a crowd. At least today we stopped that.
Midfield – no central partnership that works. The big disaster for me is Watson-Jones. It’s not working. Watson is the only midfielder we have (apart from the odd Gomez moment) who can deliver a killer pass (think the one to Salmon against West Ham). Since Jones has played Watson’s been pushed back – we’ve lost him going forward. For me it is one or the other and Watson wins. Diame is our star of the season. We never tackle, we intercept, we scare no one here.
Forward line – no partnership again. Rodallega clearly the biggest threat – but who does he interact with? He had a good relationship with N’Zogbia, but there’s no interplay with Di Santa or Moses. Just know he is really on his own, and he’s not good enough to do that. Moses beats a guy and then is stuck for his next move and we’re slow to get people into the box even if he wasn’t stuck. Di Santa is energetic and tries, but he’s really a one trick pony. Do you ever see him 1-2 with anyone? So we have forwards who are all individuals, no pairings. Hugo coming back late meant ther was no pre season chance to try a pairing out – another consequence of the summer cup in
What do I suggest? We need solid pairings in defence, midfield and up front – a singleton up there and we’re at Watford next season, it’s simple as that.
Up front I would go Rodellega-Sammon as they do try to interlink and probably the most compatible.
Midfield – Watson and Thomas as centre pairing – we need to win the ball – Thomas tackles albeit not always when the ball is still there. With Diame in there of course.
Centre back – Alcaraz and Boyce would be my preference but that leaves Stam at right back and he goes missing – so Alcaraz and Lopez who is not slower than Caldwell and might at least communicate with Alcaraz. Not ideal but best of the risky bunch.
Ok – now shoot me down!
I ain’t going to shoot you down you would change things and try something different which is essential as this is clearly not working.
Let me start this by saying I rarely post. I’m just so annoyed at the moment I need to write down what I see are fundamental, and obvious, problems in my team. By that I do not mean that Gary Caldwell is the slowest footballer in the EPL – we know it and have documented it at lot already.Today at Wolves yet again the fans did not get on Roberto’s back. I agree – I want him to succeed at Wigan, he has the club and town at heart. His is own of ours and I want “ours” to do well. We’re different to Blackburn and I like that but I do not know how long we will be.
Let me say I expect to go down. Collectively we are not good enough. In a good team it is bigger than the sum of the individuals, our team is less than than the total of the players, and there has to be a reason for that. Roberto has to shoulder some if not most of the blame.Where do I think we go wrong? For me it’s in pairings and strength.
Centre back – we’ve got Caldwell, Gohouri, Alcaraz, Lopez and sometimes Boyce or Figeuroa. We’ve not had a stable back 4 (thanks to the summer South American tournament). We do not have a good combination in them. We used to have Scharner-Bramble-Boyce only two years ago and knew that the combinations generally worked: they understood each other. That’s no more. Caldwell is good when facing the ball, but slow as hell and plays too many risky balls. Alcaraz has the speed but same problem about getting caught. We have turned “overkill” into an art form in terms of passing from the back. It bores the hell out of me and generates more raving hearts than is good for a crowd. At least today we stopped that.
Midfield – no central partnership that works. The big disaster for me is Watson-Jones. It’s not working. Watson is the only midfielder we have (apart from the odd Gomez moment) who can deliver a killer pass (think the one to Salmon against West Ham). Since Jones has played Watson’s been pushed back – we’ve lost him going forward. For me it is one or the other and Watson wins. Diame is our star of the season. We never tackle, we intercept, we scare no one here.
Forward line – no partnership again. Rodallega clearly the biggest threat – but who does he interact with? He had a good relationship with N’Zogbia, but there’s no interplay with Di Santa or Moses. Just know he is really on his own, and he’s not good enough to do that. Moses beats a guy and then is stuck for his next move and we’re slow to get people into the box even if he wasn’t stuck. Di Santa is energetic and tries, but he’s really a one trick pony. Do you ever see him 1-2 with anyone? So we have forwards who are all individuals, no pairings. Hugo coming back late meant ther was no pre season chance to try a pairing out – another consequence of the summer cup in
What do I suggest? We need solid pairings in defence, midfield and up front – a singleton up there and we’re at Watford next season, it’s simple as that.
Up front I would go Rodellega-Sammon as they do try to interlink and probably the most compatible.
Midfield – Watson and Thomas as centre pairing – we need to win the ball – Thomas tackles albeit not always when the ball is still there. With Diame in there of course.
Centre back – Alcaraz and Boyce would be my preference but that leaves Stam at right back and he goes missing – so Alcaraz and Lopez who is not slower than Caldwell and might at least communicate with Alcaraz. Not ideal but best of the risky bunch.
Ok – now shoot me down!
It’s just a pity we have a right pair managing the team.
Not an awful lot in there to disagree with, Mr Roaming.
I think in particular you’re right about Jones and Watson being too similar. Only slight disagreement is that I’d probably go for McArthur instead of Thomas but you talk a lot of sense.
On today’s performance, I’m not sure how as a manager you legislate for finishing of such poor quality when you know those players can do better.
Let me start this by saying I rarely post. I’m just so annoyed at the moment I need to write down what I see are fundamental, and obvious, problems in my team. By that I do not mean that Gary Caldwell is the slowest footballer in the EPL – we know it and have documented it at lot already.Today at Wolves yet again the fans did not get on Roberto’s back. I agree – I want him to succeed at Wigan, he has the club and town at heart. His is own of ours and I want “ours” to do well. We’re different to Blackburn and I like that but I do not know how long we will be.
Let me say I expect to go down. Collectively we are not good enough. In a good team it is bigger than the sum of the individuals, our team is less than than the total of the players, and there has to be a reason for that. Roberto has to shoulder some if not most of the blame.Where do I think we go wrong? For me it’s in pairings and strength.
Centre back – we’ve got Caldwell, Gohouri, Alcaraz, Lopez and sometimes Boyce or Figeuroa. We’ve not had a stable back 4 (thanks to the summer South American tournament). We do not have a good combination in them. We used to have Scharner-Bramble-Boyce only two years ago and knew that the combinations generally worked: they understood each other. That’s no more. Caldwell is good when facing the ball, but slow as hell and plays too many risky balls. Alcaraz has the speed but same problem about getting caught. We have turned “overkill” into an art form in terms of passing from the back. It bores the hell out of me and generates more raving hearts than is good for a crowd. At least today we stopped that.
Midfield – no central partnership that works. The big disaster for me is Watson-Jones. It’s not working. Watson is the only midfielder we have (apart from the odd Gomez moment) who can deliver a killer pass (think the one to Salmon against West Ham). Since Jones has played Watson’s been pushed back – we’ve lost him going forward. For me it is one or the other and Watson wins. Diame is our star of the season. We never tackle, we intercept, we scare no one here.
Forward line – no partnership again. Rodallega clearly the biggest threat – but who does he interact with? He had a good relationship with N’Zogbia, but there’s no interplay with Di Santa or Moses. Just know he is really on his own, and he’s not good enough to do that. Moses beats a guy and then is stuck for his next move and we’re slow to get people into the box even if he wasn’t stuck. Di Santa is energetic and tries, but he’s really a one trick pony. Do you ever see him 1-2 with anyone? So we have forwards who are all individuals, no pairings. Hugo coming back late meant ther was no pre season chance to try a pairing out – another consequence of the summer cup in
What do I suggest? We need solid pairings in defence, midfield and up front – a singleton up there and we’re at Watford next season, it’s simple as that.
Up front I would go Rodellega-Sammon as they do try to interlink and probably the most compatible.
Midfield – Watson and Thomas as centre pairing – we need to win the ball – Thomas tackles albeit not always when the ball is still there. With Diame in there of course.
Centre back – Alcaraz and Boyce would be my preference but that leaves Stam at right back and he goes missing – so Alcaraz and Lopez who is not slower than Caldwell and might at least communicate with Alcaraz. Not ideal but best of the risky bunch.
Ok – now shoot me down!
Can’t disagree with much here to be fair, but can I ask what you’d do with Moses if you have two up front and three centre midfielders?
Pretty sound comments. Have to disagree with your thought on Alcarez having enough pace. Feel he is just as much of a liability than our club captain.
I think there’s a difference between Alcaraz and Caldwell. Mainly in speed of distribution – Alcaraz does not think he’s Beckenbaur (maybe his son) but Caldwell does. I work with a lot of Scots (Celtic and Hibs fans) who ripped the p from me when we signed him, and I hate to think they are right but sadly they are. A carthorse with delusions in the SPL should head for the glue factory, not the EPL. Alcaraz does get rid quicker. Say what you want about Gohouri, playing not on the left today there was no p******g about when he had the ball, it went away. It just gnerally came straight back.
Which is part of our problem – it goes away but comes back straight away, mainly as we play one up only. Di Santo can hold up a ball, but not very long. He’ll turn and run into a wall 90% of the time. I really wish he thought with this head as quickly as he did with his feet, then he’d be good. It may take a couple of years to get “good” – and maybe going down a level – but he’s just too raw to lead the line. Dean Windless’s head on his body would be wonderful. However, Dean would never get into a Roberto team (neither would Heskey or Cattermole, both of which I’d kill for today).
There is a positive today – it’s Sunday so we don’t have to listen to Taggest (aka Hansen) on MoD talknig abot us just before the credits come up.
Actually in the premier league, we need triangles. Most teams, and Fulham showed this recently, that when a player wins the ball, receives the ball and lookes up, he has two clear options, but also generally has space. When Wigan players receive the ball, they are usually struggling as the pass is poor, but no options.
Typified with a run from Moses in the first half yesterday, di santo made a crossover run and moses just followed him rather than cut inside, but he had no options.
We are our own worse enemies.
Actually in the premier league, we need triangles. Most teams, and Fulham showed this recently, that when a player wins the ball, receives the ball and lookes up, he has two clear options, but also generally has space. When Wigan players receive the ball, they are usually struggling as the pass is poor, but no options.Typified with a run from Moses in the first half yesterday, di santo made a crossover run and moses just followed him rather than cut inside, but he had no options.
We are our own worse enemies.
our geometric shape is usually circles – and we tend to go round in them.
theres only one pair this teams short of…..b####
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