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The equivalent of a whip round for a coach driver to the likes of us pro rata wages wise ! I would be pleased if we showed some fighting spirit once in a while and didnt totally collapse like we have done several times already this season ! All we hear in their defense is Chelsea this and Villa that !! In my honest opinion those 2 sides were pretty poor by their standards when we beat them ! We showed the sort of bottle and guile that I like when we came from behind to beat Burnley in a gritty and hard fought derby ! More of that and we will be ok but tin pot gestures mean fcuk all to me personally !
Did you go to Spurs?[/quote]
i fail to see what that has to do with anything based on what I have wrote ?????????????[/quote]
Because if you didn’t, then you are not even entitled to the “tin-pot gesture” and therefore should, and actually, DOES mean “fcuk all” to you personally.
If you are suggesting and I think you are,that if I didnt go then it is none of my business and that I shouldn’t comment then may I suggest that if the players wanted to make such a gesture then it should have been done on a more personal level and not spread all over the papers and on the tv. By publicly refunding a few fans their money in a futile bid to keep player/fans relations intact they have left themselves wide open for public ( ME ) opinion and in my opinion made a faux pas.Everyone I know who aint a Latics fan finds it most amusing that they are literally paying for their incompetence! Sounds like a DWesque publicity stunt to me. I would rather see my team come out of that tunnel on Saturday and work their nads off,get a well deserved victory and then parade themselves,hands aloft clapping to our 3 stands ! That would firmly draw a line under this situation !
If you are suggesting and I think you are,that if I didnt go then it is none of my business and that I shouldn’t comment then may I suggest that if the players wanted to make such a gesture then it should have been done on a more personal level and not spread all over the papers and on the tv. By publicly refunding a few fans their money in a futile bid to keep player/fans relations intact they have left themselves wide open for public ( ME ) opinion and in my opinion made a faux pas.Everyone I know who aint a Latics fan finds it most amusing that they are literally paying for their incompetence! Sounds like a DWesque publicity stunt to me. I would rather see my team come out of that tunnel on Saturday and work their nads off,get a well deserved victory and then parade themselves,hands aloft clapping to our 3 stands ! That would firmly draw a line under this situation !Of course we all want them to put it right on Saturday, and I hope as much as the next man that they do. Unless the next man is Boobyswigan who probably would like to see us lose.
Everyone I know (including fans of other clubs) has said it was the right thing for the club/players/whelan to do (whoever ordered it), no more, no less. Just an easy, right thing for them to do. End of, move on. Hardly anyone I know has worked themselves up into a total frenzy about it like you.
And i am not suggesting that the refund has nothing to do with you. I am categorically stating that it has nothing to do with you
” Total frenzy ” !!!! Now you are being silly Griff and here is me thinking you were one of the sensible ones on here ! You have failed to see my point that financial reparation is not the answer and certainly not public financial reparation ! For instance if we had been 2 or 3 up and then got beat then that in my opinion would have been worse yet you see sides doing that from time to time. Now you dont see them offering refunds do you ! The City fans didnt get a refund after the Boro debacle did they ! The funny thing in all of this is…If we had taken a couple of thousand there would be no refunds !!
” Total frenzy ” !!!! Now you are being silly Griff and here is me thinking you were one of the sensible ones on here ! You have failed to see my point that financial reparation is not the answer and certainly not public financial reparation ! For instance if we had been 2 or 3 up and then got beat then that in my opinion would have been worse yet you see sides doing that from time to time. Now you dont see them offering refunds do you ! The City fans didnt get a refund after the Boro debacle did they ! The funny thing in all of this is…If we had taken a couple of thousand there would be no refunds !!Now, you’re making a big assumption about the last bit and I hope we’ll never be able to prove you right or wrong :)
Losing after being 3 up would indeed be hard to take but I think the fuss made about this is due to the stigma attached to conceding 9 goals. I think in that context then the reund is a “nice” gesture, which is all I said all along. No need to put the players on a pedestal, it really is the bare, bare minimum they could have done.
Anyway, tesco bags at the ready, let’s move on.
like i said on another post what does not kill you makes you stronger?.if we get tonked on saturday after black sunday then i am very concerned?Not actually true though, is it?
My old man had a heart attack which thankfully left him alive, but weak as a kitten. :?
you are right though griff! i hope your dad is going to be ok? my old man died of cancer last year so this football thing gets put on to the back burner when it comes to family!He’s fine, it was some time ago. They gave him three of those bypasses and he’s as good as new. The weakness comes from my mother brow-beating all the energy out of him since it happened. He’s not allowed to lift a stamp now. :)
I always thought that phrase was a daft ‘un, to be honest. A bit like cheap at half the price. Well of course it is! Surely the phrase should be cheap at twice the price? :?
it made me think though griff when i saw my old man on his death bed? i was estranged from him and i had not seen him for 10 years.the cancer ward in blackpool victoria was something i do not want to ever go back to.you remember your father and then you see him on his death bed and he looks nothing like how you knew him? cancer wards are horrible places and any one who as a family member in them and they visit them then my heart goes out to them!They certainly are my mother volunteers in the hospice. :oops:
I agree Griff that’s why I’ve deleted the head scratch bit OK.
FA Cup Winners 2013, sounds good that
Fair play to the players.
The money will be more than welcome to most, coming up to Christmas.
I’m glad they HAVE made it public. They really needed to show the press and football fraternity that they were ’embarrassed’ by their inept display.
I think it’s as much as they could possibly do, to be honest. Well done. lads.
(I didn’t go, but I’m sure I’d appreciate the gesture if I had done)
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