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If we don’t get two goal scorers we won’t go up, it’s no use saying.its a different standard, at the end of the day we need to score goals and if we had a half decent striker this year or certain strikers given a proper run in the team we would not have gone down. A guy I work with is a Nob End fan an he says there are some decent teams in this league.
It would be good if we could keep the majority of the fans, can’t see it though.
All I can sense here is the Johnny big Bolux attitude. We didn’t and don’t have a god given right to play in the premier league or the championship.
For a club of our size and history we have surpassed all our dreams, I’ve loved every second of it and boy do I want us to get back up there.
There are hundreds if not thousands of reasons why we have fallen so dramatically these past couple of seasons and its not down to just bad management, playing one up front, changing managers, buying shyte players.
To highlight one or two things and even individuals is being very short sighted.This landslide has not just happened to us, its actually quite common, look at City, Newcastle, Leeds, Wolves, Sheff Wednesday, Notts Forrest, Portsmouth etc etc. Sheffield United played in the premiership in its inaugural year, look where they have been presiding since we sent them down at Brammel Lane several years ago.
I’m that much a latics fan, if they lose, its ruined my weekend, my missus has fallen out with me loads of times cos I’ve chosen to go watching Wigan away at places like Southend, instead of attending a relatives wedding. That’s how much this club means to me. I was watching SSN on Tuesday stomach turning upside down as reports came in from the Rotherham match. I spent around 4 grand watching every game home and away in our first season in the prem. I’ve been to Netherfield, Great Harwood,South Shields, Stafford Rangers, Bradford Park Avenue etc watching um with 20 odd others. I have lost count of the times I’ve had fights with Rugby fans who have tried to take the piss about our crowds, I could go on and on, but you should get where I’m coming from by now.
Now that the dust has settled and our fate has been sealed, I’m actually beginning to look forward to next season. Whats the point in dwelling on whats happened it wont make you feel better it will just beat you up.I feel positive vibes about David Sharp and Gary Caldwell, they both seem passionate about our club. No doubt we will see massive changes in personnel between now and August, some that gets us excited, some that doesn’t, but what ever happens, Wigan Athletic will be running out at the DW next season with an ambition to win games. That’s what they want,that’s what we want, that’s what they tried to do last season and the many seasons before. We can’t predict what will happen, but that’s football for you, if it was a predictable as picking the top 4 clubs in the premier league, it would be boring.
We know many of you feel bitter about what’s happened this season, you don’t need to flood every thread with it, lets get Saturday over with, take a nice break and come back next season with fresh hope. Whether you pack um in or not, the club will still roll on, Mr Whelan has made sure that we are a sustainable club whether you love him or hate him.
BELIEVE!!!Fuckin hell, you’ve changed your tune! You had a meltdown of epic proportions when Martinez left us and said he should have stayed and righted his relegation wrong by taking us back up again! You were most confident of us doing very well in The Championship and thought that our squad was more than adequate to challenge for promotion so why the little club mentality all of a sudden and acceptance of the fuckin shambles of this season? This roll over lay down attitude isn’t good, it isn’t good at all! You will be endorsing League Two next and saying that this is what we really are if we are ever unfortunate enough to go back there! Non league football could potentially have some of our old skool fans quite literally creaming their y fronts! :dry:[/quote]
I had a melt down did I? Melt down is defined in your last post, I had views on RM leaving us when he did and still do. That will not change, but it won’t affect the way I feel about my club. I just dusted myself down and got behind the next manager and the next and the next… It’s Wigan Athletic Football club I support and not a chairman, a style of play, the manager, the players, the kit man, the pitch, the media etc..
We could be playing 11 down and outs in a mustard shirt with pink dots in the conference League 27 and I would support um and would want them to do well.
There were people on here who were willing them to go down from the prem, others putting money on um to be relegated from the championship, some clodding season tickets on to the pitch FFS. Well I’m sorry, I just don’t recognise them as supporters in the true sense of the word. It might just be my personal standards, but I realise everyone is entitled to do and say what they want, even if it comes across as being childish and dolls out the pramish.
From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!A few years ago ,2010 to be precise I was lucky enough to be in New York and sat nicely in a bar chewing the fat to some American Latics fans who knew all about the club.
This was due to our worldwide profile at the time by being in the top flight.
When you have achieved that level of profile it is very difficult to get excited about fleet wood and burton at home and I cannot understand the mentality of people who think it is acceptable for a club with a huge turnover to get relegated so quickly.
It took 8 years to get out of the lower divisions last time and may take a lot longer now!
Far harder to take when you have eaten at the top table and it could have been avoided so easily.A few years ago ,2010 to be precise I was lucky enough to be in New York and sat nicely in a bar chewing the fat to some American Latics fans who knew all about the club.
This was due to our worldwide profile at the time by being in the top flight.
When you have achieved that level of profile it is very difficult to get excited about fleet wood and burton at home and I cannot understand the mentality of people who think it is acceptable for a club with a huge turnover to get relegated so quickly.
It took 8 years to get out of the lower divisions last time and may take a lot longer now!
Far harder to take when you have eaten at the top table and it could have been avoided so easily.Nobody has said its acceptable to get relegated so quickly, this is about sticking by your club through thick and thin and being grown up about it.
I suggest that this mentality is what good supporters should have. If I was interviewing a person who has applied to be a fan of my club, the first thing I’d be saying is, “you know there are going to be some ups and downs, so its not always going to be a good ride, you will have to take some awful results and performances”. If they didn’t accept that fact, I’d be saying…”next”
As for huge turnover, surely you are old and wise enough to understand that money doesn’t guarantee you success, it should I agree, but the fact is it doesn’t and that’s been the case for as long as football was invented.
OK you can talk about Man city and Chelsea buying success, but what about the money Newcastle have spent, Villa, even the likes of Portsmouth and Leeds etc.I hope it doesn’t take 8 years for us to get back in the championship or even the Prem, but if it does so be it, I’ll have a little moan here and their, maybe a big moan once in a while, but I wont beat myself up like some of you are doing on here, it doesn’t make good reading, honestly it doesn’t.
I can see if we lose our opening game next season, this board will be awash with feckin Victor Meldrews. :lol:From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!……….. and it could have been avoided so easily.I trust you’ve made your submission/application to be one of the new board of directors. You can then tell Sharpey, JJ & Caldwell just how easy it could be !
I’m sorry but playing the likes of some of these doesn’t inspire me one iota and the thought of playing Southend on a wet Tuesday fills me with dread.
All this “it’s going to be great bollocks” does my head in and proves we have a small minded outlook.
We have just been effing relegated halfway in receipt of parachute payments to the third division after fighting our way up in the nineties.
I don’t think the reality of this situation has sunk in yet and maybe it’s because the vast proportion of our supporters never experienced this league back then. It’s death on every level with disheveled clubs in backwaters and trips to these places are grim believe me!
The anger I feel today is unbelievable , we could and should still be in the second division , how the hell did it come to this???Believe it or not even grounds like Southend can bring about good memories. We won there in this very same league 2 nil win with a Neil Rimmer 25yard lob :lol:
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