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17 October 2011 at 12:26 am #72286
We were rubbish, we made a very poor Bolton side look like world beaters. We can’t defend, the midfield creates nowt and we never look like scoring.
17 October 2011 at 1:01 am #72287Sorry that this response seems a bit leaning towards the light side, but to say we didn’t create anything, then I’m sure you didn’t go to the game.
Besides creating by far the best goal of the game, did I not see Moses creating at least 2 or 3 chances?
Did Hugo not come on and look the most dangerous player on the field going forward?
Did Di Santo not make a couple of surging runs in the first half that led to fizzled out efforts?My Bolton supporter mate who went to the game picked out 3 wanderers players who he reckoned “did owt” The rest he said looked shyte.
He also said he felt that we [latics] would score every time we went on the attack.
It just goes to show how fans see games differently, a bit like when winning 1-0 the last 5 minutes seem like an hour on the other hand if you’re losing 1-0 seems over in 30 seconds. In both cases that 5 mins is exactly the same.My view on the game was that we were very, very poor up to the Momo equaliser, then we suddenly looked like we would go on and win the game. Bolton were gifted their goals and didn’t have to work hard for them.
The goal 10 secs from half time totally changed the direction of the game. If Gohouri had put the ball into row Z, thus allowing the ref to blow the half time whistle, we may have seen a different result. :scared-eek:From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!17 October 2011 at 12:21 pm #72289The worrying thing for me from Saturday was not the schoolboy errors made by some of our players which lead to all 3 goals, but the thought processes of a manager who felt that it would be better to play a second rate centre half (who missed all of pre-season , looked hopelessly off the pace in his comeback against Tottenham & who was suspended in our only game since then) at left back and leave his 2 specialist left backs either on the bench or out of the squad altogether
He can bang on that Figueroa was fatigued or jet lagged after his international games for Honduras but I doubt that the 45 mins of extra kip he got during that 1st half would have made much of a difference
Quite why he dropped Van Aanholt altogether is beyond me – & according to the football first commentator on Sky beyond Van Aanholt too.People can debate Bobby’s tactics, formations & style of play till they’re blue in the face, but such a glaringly bad judgement call can’t be denied or glossed over.
Everyone makes mistakes though & I hope that its one Bobby acknowledges & learns from just as I hope that examples in recent games of players getting caught in possession in dangerous territory highlights to him that there are times when giving it a good old hoof is a better option than trying to play it out from the back – although I think one is more likely than the otherEDIT – & one other thing. I’ve never thought that Caldwell deserves the flak he gets from some Latics supporters but in the last couple of games his lack of mobility has been horribly exposed. All Eagles needed to do for that 3rd goal on Saturday was stop & turn onto his other foot & Caldwell was incapable of either stopping or changing direction. Same the other week against Villa. It shouldn’t be that easy to turn a premier league defender
17 October 2011 at 12:27 pm #72290Sorry that this response seems a bit leaning towards the light side, but to say we didn’t create anything, then I’m sure you didn’t go to the game.Besides creating by far the best goal of the game, did I not see Moses creating at least 2 or 3 chances?
Did Hugo not come on and look the most dangerous player on the field going forward?
Did Di Santo not make a couple of surging runs in the first half that led to fizzled out efforts?My Bolton supporter mate who went to the game picked out 3 wanderers players who he reckoned “did owt” The rest he said looked shyte.
He also said he felt that we [latics] would score every time we went on the attack.
It just goes to show how fans see games differently, a bit like when winning 1-0 the last 5 minutes seem like an hour on the other hand if you’re losing 1-0 seems over in 30 seconds. In both cases that 5 mins is exactly the same.My view on the game was that we were very, very poor up to the Momo equaliser, then we suddenly looked like we would go on and win the game. Bolton were gifted their goals and didn’t have to work hard for them.
The goal 10 secs from half time totally changed the direction of the game. If Gohouri had put the ball into row Z, thus allowing the ref to blow the half time whistle, we may have seen a different result. :scared-eek:I think its obvious to say that Latics did create some chances but in reality they never caused Bolton’s keeper to work as hard as Al Habsi had to at times nor were they as glaringly obvious as a free header from 2 yards out that they put wide
In fact the examples you highlighted just show that Di Santo’s endeavours fizzled out, Rodallega looked dangerous (but didn’t score or seriously test the keeper) & Moses runs couldn’t be finished off17 October 2011 at 12:48 pm #72293There were very few positives that anyone could draw from Saturday; the only one I can think of was that it wasn’t my turn to buy the half-time ale.
JR has a point that we were undoubtedly better in the second half, but it was hardly a stretch to improve on the first half, was it.
Like Tyldesley, I am utterly baffled as to the thought process that resulted in the selection of Gouhouri at left-back and in the absence of an explanation from Roberto I guess we will have to remain baffled.
Also, with a plethora of players capable of playing wide (Maloney, Crusat, even McManaman) why on earth we start with McCarthy out there, I’ll never know. I guess he wasn’t too happy about it either because he looked like he couldn’t be @rsed until he moved inside later but even then he wasn’t much better.
Let’s hope that it was indeed just a one-off because much more of that dn it will be a very long season indeed.
17 October 2011 at 8:49 pm #72304Not McManaman – we’ve loaned him to Blackpool
18 October 2011 at 10:55 am #72307There were very few positives that anyone could draw from Saturday; the only one I can think of was that it wasn’t my turn to buy the half-time ale.JR has a point that we were undoubtedly better in the second half, but it was hardly a stretch to improve on the first half, was it.
Like Tyldesley, I am utterly baffled as to the thought process that resulted in the selection of Gouhouri at left-back and in the absence of an explanation from Roberto I guess we will have to remain baffled.
Also, with a plethora of players capable of playing wide (Maloney, Crusat, even McManaman) why on earth we start with McCarthy out there, I’ll never know. I guess he wasn’t too happy about it either because he looked like he couldn’t be @rsed until he moved inside later but even then he wasn’t much better.
Let’s hope that it was indeed just a one-off because much more of that dn it will be a very long season indeed.
His team selectin on Saturday smacked of a manager who had spent far too long worrying about what Bolton Wanderers were capable of doing & not enough time worrying about what his own team were capable of doing to them
As he’s alluded to Bolton’s physical nature of play I can only assume that he thought a lumbering centre half would be a better bet than either a young, still wet behind the ears Van Aanholt or a slightly tired Figueroa
Likewise packing his midfield with his grafters and/or more experienced (within this team/level) playersWhatever his reasons they were really poor choices & ones that make you worry somewhat about the thought processes behind his whole reign
21 October 2011 at 3:42 pm #72330Why oh why let a good part of your squad go over two years and consistently refuse to play new signings. Come on Bob, why have we not played Maloney or Crusat?
22 October 2011 at 1:10 pm #72352Why oh why let a good part of your squad go over two years and consistently refuse to play new signings. Come on Bob, why have we not played Maloney or Crusat?I agree with you, what was the point of signing them if they are not going to be tried.
The young lad from Chelsea looks good to me, again why sign him then not use him?
McCarthur & Stam made a difference when they came on against Spurs, but where were they against Noblot?
Ghouori was poor last week along with McCarthy, but they were both out of position.
McCarthy was better when switched to his right position in the second half.
Ghouori or Boyce surely would be better at Centre back than Caldwell.
I also couldn’t work out why he took off Watson as I thought he was the best of a very poor midfield last week. -
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