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Would this benefit Latics? I personally would love it, always want to stand at games but are not allowed.
There is a paper being put infront of the commons soon to see if grounds would be allowe to do it, find it a bit strange that the only vocal opposers hail from Liverpool or Liverpool FC
The problem for latics is that if we had this our ground would look even more empty, more people would be squashed up and huge gaps would be obvious..
On a serious note, a lot of stadiums would have to be redesigned to accomodate the safety aspect, take the east stand, would be too steep to allow standing areas.
Personally I prefer to sit down at games, but people like to choose.
As for Liverpool, they are an absolute disgrace if they oppose such things based on their past. Recent history, the champions league final in athens showed they couldnt care less, fans jumping barriers, 3 to a seat and what a good jolly that was for them. They lost all credability with that, so their opinion counts for nothing.
“On a serious note, a lot of stadiums would have to be redesigned to accomodate the safety aspect, take the east stand, would be too steep to allow standing areas.”
I don’t think it would. Campaigners for standing areas point to the example of german stadiums. From what I can gather these can be adapted for both seating & standing. I’m unclear as to whether the step can be spun round to reveal a seat but I do know that they have a crush barrier at every level – primarily to stop the momentum of the crowd surges but it would also make the steepness or other wise of a stand irrelevant too
I hope they built their stadiums in the same design as the set of Bugsy Malone, press a button and the seats suddenly disappear, when the authorities come to check you can switch them back….
I personally think the stadium would benefit from a reduced capacity say by 5/6000. Net off the back of the South and East stands.
Bring everyone closer together. Maybe it will improve the atmosphere.
Relocating existing season ticket holders would be a sticking point.
I personally think the stadium would benefit from a reduced capacity say by 5/6000. Net off the back of the South and East stands.Bring everyone closer together. Maybe it will improve the atmosphere.
Relocating existing season ticket holders would be a sticking point.
Dont you mean 10,000 !!
15,000 is adequate enough for our meagre fan base ! ;)Put the family stand into one side of the East like when we first moved in (lets face it they’d fit)
Cut off the bottom half of the South and create a terrace similar to the Carnegie stand at Leeds.
Put the family stand into one side of the East like when we first moved in (lets face it they’d fit)
Cut off the bottom half of the South and create a terrace similar to the Carnegie stand at Leeds.
That stand looks awful…… :shock:
Put the family stand into one side of the East like when we first moved in (lets face it they’d fit)
Cut off the bottom half of the South and create a terrace similar to the Carnegie stand at Leeds.
That stand looks awful…… :shock:
Might be due to the quality of the pic. It actually looks pretty good in the flesh.
Put the family stand into one side of the East like when we first moved in (lets face it they’d fit)
Cut off the bottom half of the South and create a terrace similar to the Carnegie stand at Leeds.
That stand looks awful…… :shock:
Might be due to the quality of the pic. It actually looks pretty good in the flesh.[/quote]
Are you saying that the stand is actually made of flesh !! :o
Sorry now, but a big resounding NO to terracing.
Why? Because I think people forget how crap it actually was. What? standing on freezing concrete, which was far worse if wet. I think people are forgetting the reasons why all seaters came into being. Safety. If terracing came back, how long before fences mad a reappearance? Why are people so nostalgic for “the 80s”? It was a crap decade for football! Disaster after disaster, playing into the hands of a Thatcherite goverment.
And also, another reason why I cant see it happening is that clubs would have to reduce ticket prices.
And lets be honest, if Wiganers won’t turn up to SIT DOWN at matches, do you honestly expect them to turn up to STAND? No.
Sorry now, but a big resounding NO to terracing.Why? Because I think people forget how crap it actually was. What? standing on freezing concrete, which was far worse if wet. I think people are forgetting the reasons why all seaters came into being. Safety. If terracing came back, how long before fences mad a reappearance? Why are people so nostalgic for “the 80s”? It was a crap decade for football! Disaster after disaster, playing into the hands of a Thatcherite goverment.
And also, another reason why I cant see it happening is that clubs would have to reduce ticket prices.
And lets be honest, if Wiganers won’t turn up to SIT DOWN at matches, do you honestly expect them to turn up to STAND? No.
To be fair if you were stood in a covered terrace that was relatively full it is far less “freezing” than sitting down at a football game – I remember a midweek game at Springfield Park which must have been around 1990ish. I used to sell programmes & gto in the ground for nowt & for some reason decided to sit in the Phoenix Stand. It was feckin freezin so at half time I moved into the St Andrew’s side & it was far warmer
Yes terracing was removed for safety reasons after Hillsborough but that was in 1989 & H&S advances in the almost 22 years since then have come on in leaps & bounds &, as has been proved at the stadia in germany, can be made as “safe” as seats can.
I fail to see how putting someone in terracing is going to make them more likely to invade the pitch as there’d be no need for fencing to go back up – football is a completely different beast to what it was in the 70’s when the fencing was erectedSorry now, but a big resounding NO to terracing.
Why? Because I think people forget how crap it actually was. What? standing on freezing concrete, which was far worse if wet. I think people are forgetting the reasons why all seaters came into being. Safety. If terracing came back, how long before fences mad a reappearance? Why are people so nostalgic for “the 80s”? It was a crap decade for football! Disaster after disaster, playing into the hands of a Thatcherite goverment.
And also, another reason why I cant see it happening is that clubs would have to reduce ticket prices.
And lets be honest, if Wiganers won’t turn up to SIT DOWN at matches, do you honestly expect them to turn up to STAND? No.
To be fair if you were stood in a covered terrace that was relatively full it is far less “freezing” than sitting down at a football game – I remember a midweek game at Springfield Park which must have been around 1990ish. I used to sell programmes & gto in the ground for nowt & for some reason decided to sit in the Phoenix Stand. It was feckin freezin so at half time I moved into the St Andrew’s side & it was far warmer
Yes terracing was removed for safety reasons after Hillsborough but that was in 1989 & H&S advances in the almost 22 years since then have come on in leaps & bounds &, as has been proved at the stadia in germany, can be made as “safe” as seats can.
I fail to see how putting someone in terracing is going to make them more likely to invade the pitch as there’d be no need for fencing to go back up – football is a completely different beast to what it was in the 70’s when the fencing was erected[/quote]Numpties….go back to terracing…ha ha!!!!
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