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Watching Hull v Arsenal on MOTD tonight and am curious if anybody else thinks cheating is doing away with good goalies.
The incident I’m referring to is when Czech went to save at the feet of a Hull City player (can’t remember his name) who knocked it almost sideways, and then went down, as his trailing feet hit Czech. Now I know there was “contact”, but for me it was never a pen.. Czech kept himself low, and didn’t initiate the contact. But still the ref gave it. The Hull player would never have scored from the position where he kicked the ball too.
Keepers need to be brave but decisions like this could well do away GOOD keepers.
Been like that for a while.
On the other side of the coin…..keeper drops 50/50 ball from a cross, goes down and its a free kick.
Watching Hull v Arsenal on MOTD tonight and am curious if anybody else thinks cheating is doing away with good goalies.The incident I’m referring to is when Czech went to save at the feet of a Hull City player (can’t remember his name) who knocked it almost sideways, and then went down, as his trailing feet hit Czech. Now I know there was “contact”, but for me it was never a pen.. Czech kept himself low, and didn’t initiate the contact. But still the ref gave it. The Hull player would never have scored from the position where he kicked the ball too.
Keepers need to be brave but decisions like this could well do away GOOD keepers.
Sorry, but it’s a foul all day long. Imagine anywhere else on the pitch where a player knocks the ball past an opponent who then comes flying in late. People would be screaming for a foul
Keepers should be no different – stay on your feet & give the opposition player something to think about rather than come haring out & commit to a challenge where you’ve got no chance of getting the ballWatching Hull v Arsenal on MOTD tonight and am curious if anybody else thinks cheating is doing away with good goalies.
The incident I’m referring to is when Czech went to save at the feet of a Hull City player (can’t remember his name) who knocked it almost sideways, and then went down, as his trailing feet hit Czech. Now I know there was “contact”, but for me it was never a pen.. Czech kept himself low, and didn’t initiate the contact. But still the ref gave it. The Hull player would never have scored from the position where he kicked the ball too.
Keepers need to be brave but decisions like this could well do away GOOD keepers.
Sorry, but it’s a foul all day long. Imagine anywhere else on the pitch where a player knocks the ball past an opponent who then comes flying in late. People would be screaming for a foul
Keepers should be no different – stay on your feet & give the opposition player something to think about rather than come haring out & commit to a challenge where you’ve got no chance of getting the ball[/quote]Understand what you are saying Tyldesley , but it is a keepers job to dive at the feet on oncoming players. Anywhere else on the pitch and i’d have to agree with you.
Czech was pretty close to getting there to be fair and when you look at the direction the ball went (sideways) and to an Arsenal defender, so no chance of another Hull player scoring, then for me the outfield player made the most of. The ref didn’t give it when it happened, think the linesman gave it?Understand what you are saying Tyldesley , but it is a keepers job to dive at the feet on oncoming players. Anywhere else on the pitch and i’d have to agree with you.
Czech was pretty close to getting there to be fair and when you look at the direction the ball went (sideways) and to an Arsenal defender, so no chance of another Hull player scoring, then for me the outfield player made the most of. The ref didn’t give it when it happened, think the linesman gave it?Again, I’d have to disagree
It’s not the keepers job to dive at the feet of oncoming players – it’s the keepers job to stop any attempts becoming goals.
Coming haring out & diving in shows a lack of judgement to me & there’s no need for it – I’ve just watched it & the issue was Cech making an error of judgement. There was no need for him to come out in the way he did. he committed himself way too early & the attacker knew that all he had to do was knock it past as he did & Cech was gonna catch him.
You can argue that the Hull guy could have got out of the way of the challenge but there doesn’t have to be contact for it to be a foul & if leaping out of the way of Cech’s challenge would have made it easier for an Arsenal player to get back & challenge or caused the Hull guy to lose his balance then it would still have been a penalty.Not sure why the ref didn’t give it initially – all I can think is that he thought that Cech was the player who’d knocked the ball sideways & the linesman alerted him over the mic that he hadn’t
And that’s the beauty of football, all about opinions.
Now I need go and brush up on name spellings :blush:
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