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What do you expect with 26 fatties running all over it and when they have them scrum things that must churn up a few divotages
Oi you, I have copyright on “divotage” :evil: [/quote]
and “Oi you” i claim the same copyright on reduced size quoting ;)
Up until mid January the pitch was showing little signs of damage, during the snow Latics had a training session or two on it which resulted in a few more areas of serious damage.On Tuesday, before a ball had been kicked, the entire pitch was destroyed, possibly the worst condition it has ever been in, totally unplayable.
And lets not forget, two of the football matches played since mid-January could have been avoided had:
a. The Bolton game been rearranged for a date later in the season when the grass was growing and the pitch was more playable.
b. You had done what a PL side should do to a League 2 Club.
And lets not forget, two of the football matches played since mid-January could have been avoided had:a. The Bolton game been rearranged for a date later in the season when the grass was growing and the pitch was more playable.
b. You had done what a PL side should do to a League 2 Club.
Blimey, patronised by a pretend geordie club’s fan. Whatever next?!
Pass me the noose, quickly. :roll:
From the groundsman’s own lips.“Rugby isn’t to blame, the football team training on it during bad weather is. Football does more damage than rugby anyway. The real problem is a lack of root mass. The club won’t buy a special lighting system that encourages growth during the months when there isn’t any natural growth.”
I’ve seen the lighting system he’s on about (once at Wembley and also at the Emirates) and reckon most clubs with pitch problems must have one. It’s basically a rack of special lamps on a large frame with wheels that can be moved around the pitch. A bit like a sunbed for grass.
Blaming the rugby is simply wrong.
When I was with my previous employer, we use to have our monthly update meetings in one of the boxes at Man City, and they’ve got a couple of these grass growing machine things. They look like giant lighting gantries on wheels, with banks of sunlamps attached. I’d spend hours watching them working on the pitch, and I haven’t a clue what used to go on in our meetings.
The other thing I always noticed with City is that they seemed to have dozens of people working on the turf each time I was there. Can’t imagine that at the DW.
and “Oi you” i claim the same copyright on reduced size quoting ;)You can indeed, and if I’m not mistaken, due credit and deference was given at the time.
From the groundsman’s own lips.“Rugby isn’t to blame, the football team training on it during bad weather is. Football does more damage than rugby anyway. The real problem is a lack of root mass. The club won’t buy a special lighting system that encourages growth during the months when there isn’t any natural growth.”
I’ve seen the lighting system he’s on about (once at Wembley and also at the Emirates) and reckon most clubs with pitch problems must have one. It’s basically a rack of special lamps on a large frame with wheels that can be moved around the pitch. A bit like a sunbed for grass.
Blaming the rugby is simply wrong.
if this is from the groundsmans lips hes talking out his a r se.
grass stops growing through the winter months because the soil temp drops below a certain temp.You do not need no sunbed lights or any other light to make it grow,there is a nitrogen feed that you mix with water and spray it over the pitch this then soaks into the soil warming it up and so the grass starts to growFrom the groundsman’s own lips.
“Rugby isn’t to blame, the football team training on it during bad weather is. Football does more damage than rugby anyway. The real problem is a lack of root mass. The club won’t buy a special lighting system that encourages growth during the months when there isn’t any natural growth.”
I’ve seen the lighting system he’s on about (once at Wembley and also at the Emirates) and reckon most clubs with pitch problems must have one. It’s basically a rack of special lamps on a large frame with wheels that can be moved around the pitch. A bit like a sunbed for grass.
Blaming the rugby is simply wrong.
if this is from the groundsmans lips hes talking out his a r se.
grass stops growing through the winter months because the soil temp drops below a certain temp.You do not need no sunbed lights or any other light to make it grow,there is a nitrogen feed that you mix with water and spray it over the pitch this then soaks into the soil warming it up and so the grass starts to grow[/quote]A chemical that you mix with water and it warms soil up.
You really didn’t listen to your science lessons at school, did you?
How does that work exactly?? :?
From the groundsman’s own lips.
“Rugby isn’t to blame, the football team training on it during bad weather is. Football does more damage than rugby anyway. The real problem is a lack of root mass. The club won’t buy a special lighting system that encourages growth during the months when there isn’t any natural growth.”
I’ve seen the lighting system he’s on about (once at Wembley and also at the Emirates) and reckon most clubs with pitch problems must have one. It’s basically a rack of special lamps on a large frame with wheels that can be moved around the pitch. A bit like a sunbed for grass.
Blaming the rugby is simply wrong.
if this is from the groundsmans lips hes talking out his a r se.
grass stops growing through the winter months because the soil temp drops below a certain temp.You do not need no sunbed lights or any other light to make it grow,there is a nitrogen feed that you mix with water and spray it over the pitch this then soaks into the soil warming it up and so the grass starts to grow[/quote]A chemical that you mix with water and it warms soil up.
You really didn’t listen to your science lessons at school, did you?
How does that work exactly?? :? [/quote]
i have worked for the biggest turf company in the northwest for 12yrs and every turf company through out the country keeps there turf growing in winter the same way.You really didnt read the thread carefully it soaks into the soil to warm it up so then the grass thinks its spring/summer.Turf is sold all year round not just in summer :roll:
Get the groundmon towd then lad
From the groundsman’s own lips.
“Rugby isn’t to blame, the football team training on it during bad weather is. Football does more damage than rugby anyway. The real problem is a lack of root mass. The club won’t buy a special lighting system that encourages growth during the months when there isn’t any natural growth.”
I’ve seen the lighting system he’s on about (once at Wembley and also at the Emirates) and reckon most clubs with pitch problems must have one. It’s basically a rack of special lamps on a large frame with wheels that can be moved around the pitch. A bit like a sunbed for grass.
Blaming the rugby is simply wrong.
if this is from the groundsmans lips hes talking out his a r se.
grass stops growing through the winter months because the soil temp drops below a certain temp.You do not need no sunbed lights or any other light to make it grow,there is a nitrogen feed that you mix with water and spray it over the pitch this then soaks into the soil warming it up and so the grass starts to grow[/quote]I don’t doubt the chemical reaction you describe, but from my ‘o’ level biology I seem to recall that nitrogen was one of the nutrients needed for plant growth. It’s absorbed with water through the roots and then photosynthesis combines it with CO2 and whatever else to produce food for the plants growth and Oxygen as a bi-product. The vital component for photosynthesis being light and chlorophyll (the green stuff in palnts leaves).
If this is wrong then why do so many clubs have these banks of artificial lamps?
I should probably google it, but I’m happy to be told I’m wrong. After all, I can then blame my old biology teacher, Mr Tighe. It was only 27 years ago after all!
in 1988 bolton were in the old divison 4 and short of money so they played on friday night to allow rugby league to play their semi final on the ground by the time rugby league had finish with the pitch it look like a plough field just to prove that is warriors that caused the damage to the pitch :D :D
in 1988 bolton were in the old divison 4 and short of money so they played on friday night to allow rugby league to play their semi final on the ground by the time rugby league had finish with the pitch it look like a plough field just to prove that is warriors that caused the damage to the pitch :D :DIt proves nothing………
From the groundsman’s own lips.
“Rugby isn’t to blame, the football team training on it during bad weather is. Football does more damage than rugby anyway. The real problem is a lack of root mass. The club won’t buy a special lighting system that encourages growth during the months when there isn’t any natural growth.”
I’ve seen the lighting system he’s on about (once at Wembley and also at the Emirates) and reckon most clubs with pitch problems must have one. It’s basically a rack of special lamps on a large frame with wheels that can be moved around the pitch. A bit like a sunbed for grass.
Blaming the rugby is simply wrong.
if this is from the groundsmans lips hes talking out his a r se.
grass stops growing through the winter months because the soil temp drops below a certain temp.You do not need no sunbed lights or any other light to make it grow,there is a nitrogen feed that you mix with water and spray it over the pitch this then soaks into the soil warming it up and so the grass starts to grow[/quote]I don’t doubt the chemical reaction you describe, but from my ‘o’ level biology I seem to recall that nitrogen was one of the nutrients needed for plant growth. It’s absorbed with water through the roots and then photosynthesis combines it with CO2 and whatever else to produce food for the plants growth and Oxygen as a bi-product. The vital component for photosynthesis being light and chlorophyll (the green stuff in palnts leaves).
If this is wrong then why do so many clubs have these banks of artificial lamps?
I should probably google it, but I’m happy to be told I’m wrong. After all, I can then blame my old biology teacher, Mr Tighe. It was only 27 years ago after all![/quote]
NP i am just saying how grass his grown all year round,but when i go in work monday i will tell my boss he needs to spend millions of pounds buying lamps for the thousands of acres he has through out lancashire,i bet all the residents will be made up when they have constant daylight and it will be the only county in GB that dosent have anybody suffering from S.A.D.
The point i am making is we grow turf all year round with natural day light and this sprayif this is from the groundsmans lips hes talking out his a r se.
grass stops growing through the winter months because the soil temp drops below a certain temp.You do not need no sunbed lights or any other light to make it grow,there is a nitrogen feed that you mix with water and spray it over the pitch this then soaks into the soil warming it up and so the grass starts to growI don’t doubt the chemical reaction you describe, but from my ‘o’ level biology I seem to recall that nitrogen was one of the nutrients needed for plant growth. It’s absorbed with water through the roots and then photosynthesis combines it with CO2 and whatever else to produce food for the plants growth and Oxygen as a bi-product. The vital component for photosynthesis being light and chlorophyll (the green stuff in palnts leaves).
If this is wrong then why do so many clubs have these banks of artificial lamps?
I should probably google it, but I’m happy to be told I’m wrong. After all, I can then blame my old biology teacher, Mr Tighe. It was only 27 years ago after all![/quote]
NP i am just saying how grass his grown all year round,but when i go in work monday i will tell my boss he needs to spend millions of pounds buying lamps for the thousands of acres he has through out lancashire,i bet all the residents will be made up when they have constant daylight and it will be the only county in GB that dosent have anybody suffering from S.A.D.
The point i am making is we grow turf all year round with natural day light and this spray[/quote]I don’t doubt you do produce turf all year with natural light and your magic potion. I haven’t even questioned what you do in my post, yet you seem totally unwilling to accept that these lighting sets can make any difference. They may actualy be far better at promoting growth than just spraying the turf. In which case, a small area such as a football pitch could benefit and it would be economically sensible to do so.
No-one is suggesting it would be sensible for commercial turf growing.
… and my point is that spraying a chemical on soil cannot produce heat except in a very short time span of the initial chemical reaction. Even then heat will quickly dissipate.
The magic solution you talk of may well add nutrients, be beneficial to growth etc etc.
But it will not “warm the soil up” over any period of time. For that you need nature or an artificial system eg under-soil heating.
Although it has been no use to me through life I actually have a degree in chemistry. A long time ago, agreed, but I don’t know of any such advances over recent years. If there were such a chemical then we could use it to heat water and therefore fuel power stations to produce cheap electricity.
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