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2 March 2010 at 12:07 pm #25014
From the second article:-
“…it is totally feasible that we could play on it on Wednesday, but luckily it will have some time to itself before 25 men start running about on it.”
Oh good, Gomez is not playing then ;)
2 March 2010 at 4:00 pm #25052“It does beggar belief, as I said in my earlier post, that better measures weren’t taken (in fact some were actually vetoed) to ensure the stadium/pitch could cope with its poor environment.”
You’re not wrong. Seems a bit of a false economy now if Whelco are having to pay £250k every year for all eternity to relay the turf when it’d probably have cost little more than that to put the measures in place initially
2 March 2010 at 5:29 pm #25055It costs around £5-6,000 to relay the turf….
2 March 2010 at 5:46 pm #25057To be honest I’ve no idea where I’ve plucked this figure of £250k from (although it might be the figure quoted by the club when they carried out the work the other summer)
I’d be very surprised however if it only costs £6k. That works out at about £24 for a ton of sand based on 250 tons being put down at the moment nevermind the turf & the labour!!2 March 2010 at 6:23 pm #25058£6.50 per m2 at B & Q and thats not for your techno-grass. It was £150 just just to fill the hole where my shed used to be.
christ, i sound old and im only 41
2 March 2010 at 7:15 pm #25059Simply, the pitch needs to rest in summer. This gives the roots and sward chance to recover and grow. If the cuckoos played in winter like us the pitch would be in a better state than playing in summer, when the remedial work is carried out. Pitches are constructed on sand which enables play to continue in the wettest of weathers but to build up a decent root system work must be carried out such as a programme of aeration , weeding and scarifying, fungus control, feeding and cutting. This work is done in summer , late spring and early autumn. Answer to our problem but one we can not do a thing about. Give the pitch a rest in summer. OH and we recieve much less rain over our side of the pennines than Hull which is probably why Hull can keep a better pitch.
2 March 2010 at 8:31 pm #25064Simply, the pitch needs to rest in summer. This gives the roots and sward chance to recover and grow. If the cuckoos played in winter like us the pitch would be in a better state than playing in summer, when the remedial work is carried out. Pitches are constructed on sand which enables play to continue in the wettest of weathers but to build up a decent root system work must be carried out such as a programme of aeration , weeding and scarifying, fungus control, feeding and cutting. This work is done in summer , late spring and early autumn. Answer to our problem but one we can not do a thing about. Give the pitch a rest in summer. OH and we recieve much less rain over our side of the pennines than Hull which is probably why Hull can keep a better pitch.Dear Bob Flowerdew
I have been having a few problems planting ornamental hybrids in my west facing garden. what can you suggest as an alternative – a Metasequoia glyptostroboides maybe or is that just too radical?
2 March 2010 at 10:43 pm #25076i just can’t believe there is anyone at Wigan Athletic who would vetoe a perfectly good plan at the last minute purely on grounds of cost ;)
3 March 2010 at 11:34 am #25113Was near stadium last night, pitch is about 3 quarters down. Didn’t seem like there was much going on as i walked to the south east corner flag postion and didnt see anybody in the whole stadium.
3 March 2010 at 11:54 am #25116“OH and we recieve much less rain over our side of the pennines than Hull which is probably why Hull can keep a better pitch”
If I remember my GCSE geography correctly (& its going back nearly 20 years), the west side of Britain (usually) receives far more rain than the east. The main weather systems to Britain come in from the West & have usually dumped most of their muck before reaching the east. The on average wettest places in Britain tend to be in Cumbria
Can I just say as well that the pitch always looks in far better condition when Latics start to play on it again in August than it does from October to March
“i just can’t believe there is anyone at Wigan Athletic who would vetoe a perfectly good plan at the last minute purely on grounds of cost”
I’ve been scratching my head tryna think who that could have been too!!3 March 2010 at 12:39 pm #25117Mistake by me, meant to say we get less rain. The pitch will still look good early season but the root development to sustain a decent playing surface throughout the winter is shot at with the compaction it recieves over summer.Drop the Redwood idea Mr Bath mon. This will out grow its position and take valueable nutrients and trace elements from the soil. Plus water and A big conifer like that will also block out light.
3 March 2010 at 1:42 pm #25119It costs around £5-6,000 to relay the turf….Hang on a minute.
The pitch is approx 100m x 60m = 6000m2
So if it costs £6000 as you say, it’s £1 per square metre to relay the pitch.
Where are they getting the turf from? Aldi?
3 March 2010 at 2:02 pm #25120It costs around £5-6,000 to relay the turf….
Hang on a minute.
The pitch is approx 100m x 60m = 6000m2
So if it costs £6000 as you say, it’s £1 per square metre to relay the pitch.
Where are they getting the turf from? Aldi?[/quote]
Quagmires R Us for all your grassed morass’s ! Free pair of wellies with every 1000m2 !
3 March 2010 at 2:36 pm #25124”OH and we recieve much less rain over our side of the pennines than Hull which is probably why Hull can keep a better pitch”If I remember my GCSE geography correctly (& its going back nearly 20 years), the west side of Britain (usually) receives far more rain than the east. The main weather systems to Britain come in from the West & have usually dumped most of their muck before reaching the east. The on average wettest places in Britain tend to be in Cumbria
The wettest place is Cumbria but the wettest city in Britain is Swansea –
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ … ot_us.html
So Bob should be used to it!3 March 2010 at 3:08 pm #25125Anonymous
If methane is the problem, then something as simple as a gas venting trench can be installed around the pitch. Not sure how effective it would be because ideally you would want the venting under the pitch. But around the pitch would ease some of the ground gases.
To rip everything up would be pretty expensive. I think it was the heating that was 9″ below ground. That would be the costly exercise re installing one of those I would imagine. So I assume that is preventing a complete ‘tear up and over haul’ of the pitch and its heating, drainage and gas venting (or lack of it)
So you wouldn’t have to go as far as having an extensive air flow system which also controls moisture.
A series of vertical pipes driven into the ground with a vent attached to the top allowing the natural release of ground gases -
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