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    Just watched a brilliant documentary on C4 about new evidence about the sinking. If this is true we may finally know the truth about why she sank. It states that when Titanic left Southampton she was on fire. A 3 storey high coal bunker was alight and evidence now shows that one of the main bulkheads which made up a wall of the bunker was badly affected by the fire and finally gave way as the ship filled up with water. The fire was dismissed as a cause at the enquiry and now looks like a massive cover up by the owners took place. I love programmes like this and find the Titanic story fascinating.

    #157902
    Vat69Vat69
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      The only problem I have with this is that why has it taken over 100 years for there to be any mention of this fire? You’d have thought that at least some of the survivors testimonies would’ve mentioned this, back then.

      We have a modern tendency to attempt to change history. Titanic is a fantastic story, a great bit of history.

      #157924
      the otterthe otter
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        We have a modern tendency to attempt to change history.

        Oh the irony!

        #157925
        Vat69Vat69
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          C’est wha?

          #157941
          The only problem I have with this is that why has it taken over 100 years for there to be any mention of this fire? You’d have thought that at least some of the survivors testimonies would’ve mentioned this, back then.

          We have a modern tendency to attempt to change history. Titanic is a fantastic story, a great bit of history.

          Exactly what happened vat one of the boiler men told the inquest of the damage and stated water began to gush in through the bulkhead but White Star dismissed it. Seems a lot of covering up the truth went on .

          #158123
          Anonymous

            The only problem I have with this is that why has it taken over 100 years for there to be any mention of this fire? You’d have thought that at least some of the survivors testimonies would’ve mentioned this, back then.

            We have a modern tendency to attempt to change history. Titanic is a fantastic story, a great bit of history.

            Exactly what happened vat one of the boiler men told the inquest of the damage and stated water began to gush in through the bulkhead but White Star dismissed it. Seems a lot of covering up the truth went on .[/quote]

            Let’s be perfectly honest, if it wasn’t for the film, nobody would care. Actually I would go as far to say that people still don’t care, at all. They may well like the film and want to know what happened etc, but in terms of actually caring, they don’t.

            #158125

            The only problem I have with this is that why has it taken over 100 years for there to be any mention of this fire? You’d have thought that at least some of the survivors testimonies would’ve mentioned this, back then.

            We have a modern tendency to attempt to change history. Titanic is a fantastic story, a great bit of history.

            Exactly what happened vat one of the boiler men told the inquest of the damage and stated water began to gush in through the bulkhead but White Star dismissed it. Seems a lot of covering up the truth went on .[/quote]

            Let’s be perfectly honest, if it wasn’t for the film, nobody would care. Actually I would go as far to say that people still don’t care, at all. They may well like the film and want to know what happened etc, but in terms of actually caring, they don’t.[/quote]

            The film!!!!!!!! Get real, a massive event in history and all that matters is a poxy film? Many lives lost and you don’t think a reason is important? . All forms of travel are now safe because people did care when a disaster happened. Every sinking, plane crash rail accident has ensured that mistakes or design faults are never repeated making travel as safe as possible. If it had happened today While Star Line would possibly face corporate manslaughter charges. Next time you fly remember many people have died so your plane has a better chance of staying in the air.

            #158127
            Anonymous

              The only problem I have with this is that why has it taken over 100 years for there to be any mention of this fire? You’d have thought that at least some of the survivors testimonies would’ve mentioned this, back then.

              We have a modern tendency to attempt to change history. Titanic is a fantastic story, a great bit of history.

              Exactly what happened vat one of the boiler men told the inquest of the damage and stated water began to gush in through the bulkhead but White Star dismissed it. Seems a lot of covering up the truth went on .[/quote]

              Let’s be perfectly honest, if it wasn’t for the film, nobody would care. Actually I would go as far to say that people still don’t care, at all. They may well like the film and want to know what happened etc, but in terms of actually caring, they don’t.[/quote]

              The film!!!!!!!! Get real, a massive event in history and all that matters is a poxy film? Many lives lost and you don’t think a reason is important? . All forms of travel are now safe because people did care when a disaster happened. Every sinking, plane crash rail accident has ensured that mistakes or design faults are never repeated making travel as safe as possible. If it had happened today While Star Line would possibly face corporate manslaughter charges. Next time you fly remember many people have died so your plane has a better chance of staying in the air.[/quote]

              Are you for real, this line you put is ridiculous… ‘Next time you fly remember many people have died so your plane has a better chance of staying in the air’ .. They didn’t volunteer to die on a plane, they definitely didn’t die JUST so that others could fly more safely. They actually probably wanted to go on holiday as we do.

              Also yes it was a big disaster, there have been many many over the years, Titanic is more prone to be discussed etc because the film is known as a classic. The fact is that it was out of our lifetime, likelihood is that more or less all of us have ABSOLUTE ZERO personal ties to it. So do people ‘care’ what happened? Will anybody actually feel ANY different regardless. I know I won’t, I don’t know anyone who would even give is a second though.

              Silly post IMO.

              #158131

              The only problem I have with this is that why has it taken over 100 years for there to be any mention of this fire? You’d have thought that at least some of the survivors testimonies would’ve mentioned this, back then.

              We have a modern tendency to attempt to change history. Titanic is a fantastic story, a great bit of history.

              Exactly what happened vat one of the boiler men told the inquest of the damage and stated water began to gush in through the bulkhead but White Star dismissed it. Seems a lot of covering up the truth went on .[/quote]

              Let’s be perfectly honest, if it wasn’t for the film, nobody would care. Actually I would go as far to say that people still don’t care, at all. They may well like the film and want to know what happened etc, but in terms of actually caring, they don’t.[/quote]

              The film!!!!!!!! Get real, a massive event in history and all that matters is a poxy film? Many lives lost and you don’t think a reason is important? . All forms of travel are now safe because people did care when a disaster happened. Every sinking, plane crash rail accident has ensured that mistakes or design faults are never repeated making travel as safe as possible. If it had happened today While Star Line would possibly face corporate manslaughter charges. Next time you fly remember many people have died so your plane has a better chance of staying in the air.[/quote]

              Are you for real, this line you put is ridiculous… ‘Next time you fly remember many people have died so your plane has a better chance of staying in the air’ .. They didn’t volunteer to die on a plane, they definitely didn’t die JUST so that others could fly more safely. They actually probably wanted to go on holiday as we do.

              Also yes it was a big disaster, there have been many many over the years, Titanic is more prone to be discussed etc because the film is known as a classic. The fact is that it was out of our lifetime, likelihood is that more or less all of us have ABSOLUTE ZERO personal ties to it. So do people ‘care’ what happened? Will anybody actually feel ANY different regardless. I know I won’t, I don’t know anyone who would even give is a second though.

              Silly post IMO.[/quote]

              Your deliberately missing the point and it was you who said nobody cares. Of course people care. When any disaster happens questions have to be answered to enable a solution. It isn’t about making films.

              #158136
              Anonymous

                The only problem I have with this is that why has it taken over 100 years for there to be any mention of this fire? You’d have thought that at least some of the survivors testimonies would’ve mentioned this, back then.

                We have a modern tendency to attempt to change history. Titanic is a fantastic story, a great bit of history.

                Exactly what happened vat one of the boiler men told the inquest of the damage and stated water began to gush in through the bulkhead but White Star dismissed it. Seems a lot of covering up the truth went on .[/quote]

                Let’s be perfectly honest, if it wasn’t for the film, nobody would care. Actually I would go as far to say that people still don’t care, at all. They may well like the film and want to know what happened etc, but in terms of actually caring, they don’t.[/quote]

                The film!!!!!!!! Get real, a massive event in history and all that matters is a poxy film? Many lives lost and you don’t think a reason is important? . All forms of travel are now safe because people did care when a disaster happened. Every sinking, plane crash rail accident has ensured that mistakes or design faults are never repeated making travel as safe as possible. If it had happened today While Star Line would possibly face corporate manslaughter charges. Next time you fly remember many people have died so your plane has a better chance of staying in the air.[/quote]

                Are you for real, this line you put is ridiculous… ‘Next time you fly remember many people have died so your plane has a better chance of staying in the air’ .. They didn’t volunteer to die on a plane, they definitely didn’t die JUST so that others could fly more safely. They actually probably wanted to go on holiday as we do.

                Also yes it was a big disaster, there have been many many over the years, Titanic is more prone to be discussed etc because the film is known as a classic. The fact is that it was out of our lifetime, likelihood is that more or less all of us have ABSOLUTE ZERO personal ties to it. So do people ‘care’ what happened? Will anybody actually feel ANY different regardless. I know I won’t, I don’t know anyone who would even give is a second though.

                Silly post IMO.[/quote]

                Your deliberately missing the point and it was you who said nobody cares. Of course people care. When any disaster happens questions have to be answered to enable a solution. It isn’t about making films.[/quote]

                I think you may be missing the point. I AM saying nobody cares, because let’s be honest. They don’t.

                Also it is spelt *You’re* not ‘Your’.

                #158137

                The only problem I have with this is that why has it taken over 100 years for there to be any mention of this fire? You’d have thought that at least some of the survivors testimonies would’ve mentioned this, back then.

                We have a modern tendency to attempt to change history. Titanic is a fantastic story, a great bit of history.

                Exactly what happened vat one of the boiler men told the inquest of the damage and stated water began to gush in through the bulkhead but White Star dismissed it. Seems a lot of covering up the truth went on .[/quote]

                Let’s be perfectly honest, if it wasn’t for the film, nobody would care. Actually I would go as far to say that people still don’t care, at all. They may well like the film and want to know what happened etc, but in terms of actually caring, they don’t.[/quote]

                The film!!!!!!!! Get real, a massive event in history and all that matters is a poxy film? Many lives lost and you don’t think a reason is important? . All forms of travel are now safe because people did care when a disaster happened. Every sinking, plane crash rail accident has ensured that mistakes or design faults are never repeated making travel as safe as possible. If it had happened today While Star Line would possibly face corporate manslaughter charges. Next time you fly remember many people have died so your plane has a better chance of staying in the air.[/quote]

                Are you for real, this line you put is ridiculous… ‘Next time you fly remember many people have died so your plane has a better chance of staying in the air’ .. They didn’t volunteer to die on a plane, they definitely didn’t die JUST so that others could fly more safely. They actually probably wanted to go on holiday as we do.

                Also yes it was a big disaster, there have been many many over the years, Titanic is more prone to be discussed etc because the film is known as a classic. The fact is that it was out of our lifetime, likelihood is that more or less all of us have ABSOLUTE ZERO personal ties to it. So do people ‘care’ what happened? Will anybody actually feel ANY different regardless. I know I won’t, I don’t know anyone who would even give is a second though.

                Silly post IMO.[/quote]

                Your deliberately missing the point and it was you who said nobody cares. Of course people care. When any disaster happens questions have to be answered to enable a solution. It isn’t about making films.[/quote]

                I think you may be missing the point. I AM saying nobody cares, because let’s be honest. They don’t.

                Also it is spelt *You’re* not ‘Your’.[/quote]

                Sorry sir I will write out a hundred lines, “I must improve my spelling”.

                #158172

                The only problem I have with this is that why has it taken over 100 years for there to be any mention of this fire? You’d have thought that at least some of the survivors testimonies would’ve mentioned this, back then.

                We have a modern tendency to attempt to change history. Titanic is a fantastic story, a great bit of history.

                Exactly what happened vat one of the boiler men told the inquest of the damage and stated water began to gush in through the bulkhead but White Star dismissed it. Seems a lot of covering up the truth went on .[/quote]

                Let’s be perfectly honest, if it wasn’t for the film, nobody would care. Actually I would go as far to say that people still don’t care, at all. They may well like the film and want to know what happened etc, but in terms of actually caring, they don’t.[/quote]

                The film!!!!!!!! Get real, a massive event in history and all that matters is a poxy film? Many lives lost and you don’t think a reason is important? . All forms of travel are now safe because people did care when a disaster happened. Every sinking, plane crash rail accident has ensured that mistakes or design faults are never repeated making travel as safe as possible. If it had happened today While Star Line would possibly face corporate manslaughter charges. Next time you fly remember many people have died so your plane has a better chance of staying in the air.[/quote]

                Are you for real, this line you put is ridiculous… ‘Next time you fly remember many people have died so your plane has a better chance of staying in the air’ .. They didn’t volunteer to die on a plane, they definitely didn’t die JUST so that others could fly more safely. They actually probably wanted to go on holiday as we do.

                Also yes it was a big disaster, there have been many many over the years, Titanic is more prone to be discussed etc because the film is known as a classic. The fact is that it was out of our lifetime, likelihood is that more or less all of us have ABSOLUTE ZERO personal ties to it. So do people ‘care’ what happened? Will anybody actually feel ANY different regardless. I know I won’t, I don’t know anyone who would even give is a second though.

                Silly post IMO.[/quote]
                Pengolo, you aren’t the latest incarnation of the recently banned James are you by any chance??

                Anyway, Titanic is famous because it was the world’s largest and most famous ship of the time, was claimed to be unsinkable but sank on its maiden voyage, and its sinking is surrounded by myths, mystique and rumours.

                It isn’t famous because of a film. Other way around: it’s in numerous films because it’s famous.

                And because of the circumstances and coverage of its sinking at the time, it was bound to attract conspiracy theories and alternative history.

                #158176
                Anonymous

                  The only problem I have with this is that why has it taken over 100 years for there to be any mention of this fire? You’d have thought that at least some of the survivors testimonies would’ve mentioned this, back then.

                  We have a modern tendency to attempt to change history. Titanic is a fantastic story, a great bit of history.

                  Exactly what happened vat one of the boiler men told the inquest of the damage and stated water began to gush in through the bulkhead but White Star dismissed it. Seems a lot of covering up the truth went on .[/quote]

                  Let’s be perfectly honest, if it wasn’t for the film, nobody would care. Actually I would go as far to say that people still don’t care, at all. They may well like the film and want to know what happened etc, but in terms of actually caring, they don’t.[/quote]

                  The film!!!!!!!! Get real, a massive event in history and all that matters is a poxy film? Many lives lost and you don’t think a reason is important? . All forms of travel are now safe because people did care when a disaster happened. Every sinking, plane crash rail accident has ensured that mistakes or design faults are never repeated making travel as safe as possible. If it had happened today While Star Line would possibly face corporate manslaughter charges. Next time you fly remember many people have died so your plane has a better chance of staying in the air.[/quote]

                  Are you for real, this line you put is ridiculous… ‘Next time you fly remember many people have died so your plane has a better chance of staying in the air’ .. They didn’t volunteer to die on a plane, they definitely didn’t die JUST so that others could fly more safely. They actually probably wanted to go on holiday as we do.

                  Also yes it was a big disaster, there have been many many over the years, Titanic is more prone to be discussed etc because the film is known as a classic. The fact is that it was out of our lifetime, likelihood is that more or less all of us have ABSOLUTE ZERO personal ties to it. So do people ‘care’ what happened? Will anybody actually feel ANY different regardless. I know I won’t, I don’t know anyone who would even give is a second though.

                  Silly post IMO.[/quote]
                  Pengolo, you aren’t the latest incarnation of the recently banned James are you by any chance??

                  Anyway, Titanic is famous because it was the world’s largest and most famous ship of the time, was claimed to be unsinkable but sank on its maiden voyage, and its sinking is surrounded by myths, mystique and rumours.

                  It isn’t famous because of a film. Other way around: it’s in numerous films because it’s famous.

                  And because of the circumstances and coverage of its sinking at the time, it was bound to attract conspiracy theories and alternative history.[/quote]

                  That is all I needed, the quoted line ‘at that time’. Nobody cares now. May have done then. Nobody here I am guessing, was personally attached in any way, so there is no genuine ‘care’.

                  Not sure what your first comment means but, I don’t think so.

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