Totally undeserved

Why be bothered?

Best result for us is them going up. One with money out of the way for next yr.
Fulham are in a mess, no players. Norwich will not do well and will have their fella sacked by Christmas. Cardiff, no comment.

We’ll be next seasons Leicester, get on us early

I wish it was us, I would be more than happy being a yoyo team picking up the big bucks then relegation its shit or bust for us next season. If QPR didn’t go up this season it would have been the end of them .

Was hoping they would lose, but they held on and were clinical enough to take their chance when it came.

QPR’s team had more than 4,000 Premier League games under their belt, while Derby had less than 200.

I wouldn’t call it luck.

You’re right, it wasn’t luck – just look at the players they had at their disposal. Now this brings another slant on how they have played (cough) their way through the championship – I am no accountant, however, if one were to look at QPRs financial outlay over the past 12 months or so I am sure they wouldn’t pass the criteria/due dilligence set out by the ‘financial fair play system’. The owner and Redknapp have flagrantly abused the system. Better teams than QPR (and I include ourselves here) deserve to be in the Premiership before these spendthrifts. How they have been allowed to get away with it beggars belief – oh hang on, it’s our ‘Good ‘ol Arry innit’.

You’re right, it wasn’t luck – just look at the players they had at their disposal. Now this brings another slant on how they have played (cough) their way through the championship – I am no accountant, however, if one were to look at QPRs financial outlay over the past 12 months or so I am sure they wouldn’t pass the criteria/due dilligence set out by the ‘financial fair play system’. The owner and Redknapp have flagrantly abused the system. Better teams than QPR (and I include ourselves here) deserve to be in the Premiership before these spendthrifts. How they have been allowed to get away with it beggars belief – oh hang on, it’s our ‘Good ‘ol Arry innit’.[/quote]

They haven’t got away with it though, have they? They are about to be hit with a £50m fine. I know that’s no consolation to Derby or anyone else, but the FFP rules had to have some time to kick in and it looks as if they, like City, are being pulled up at the earliest opportunity – as far as the rules allow.

And, as I think Tyldesley has said, it’s the owners who sign the cheques, not Harry![/quote]

But they have ‘got away with it’. They have maneuvered themselves into the Prem by flagrantly breaking the FFP rules – the fine is neither here nor there to the owners. They are there because, in effect, they have cheated – cheated other teams who have stuck to the rules and have not been able to match their spending power. The fine will be paid but QPR will still get the world wide exposure that comes from being in the Prem (and the side business that comes with it). Now if they were to be deducted, say 20, points then that would be a real deterrent to others thinking that they too could get away with it – just my opinion like.

Oh! and the owners might sign the cheques but they don’t pick the players to sign do they, that’s Redknaps job.

You’re right, it wasn’t luck – just look at the players they had at their disposal. Now this brings another slant on how they have played (cough) their way through the championship – I am no accountant, however, if one were to look at QPRs financial outlay over the past 12 months or so I am sure they wouldn’t pass the criteria/due dilligence set out by the ‘financial fair play system’. The owner and Redknapp have flagrantly abused the system. Better teams than QPR (and I include ourselves here) deserve to be in the Premiership before these spendthrifts. How they have been allowed to get away with it beggars belief – oh hang on, it’s our ‘Good ‘ol Arry innit’.[/quote]

They haven’t got away with it though, have they? They are about to be hit with a £50m fine. I know that’s no consolation to Derby or anyone else, but the FFP rules had to have some time to kick in and it looks as if they, like City, are being pulled up at the earliest opportunity – as far as the rules allow.

And, as I think Tyldesley has said, it’s the owners who sign the cheques, not Harry![/quote]

But they have ‘got away with it’. They have maneuvered themselves into the Prem by flagrantly breaking the FFP rules – the fine is neither here nor there to the owners. They are there because, in effect, they have cheated – cheated other teams who have stuck to the rules and have not been able to match their spending power. The fine will be paid but QPR will still get the world wide exposure that comes from being in the Prem (and the side business that comes with it). Now if they were to be deducted, say 20, points then that would be a real deterrent to others thinking that they too could get away with it – just my opinion like.

Oh! and the owners might sign the cheques but they don’t pick the players to sign do they, that’s Redknaps job.[/quote]

I do generally agree with you, but the problem as I see it is that rules had to start from a base point and because of the way that accounts are prepared there was always the possibility that a club could take that gamble until the first checkpoint. I think a £50m fine is a fair old punishment, well deserved mind you.

I like your idea about the points deduction. I’m no lawyer but I reckon that part of the problem might be the fact that the FL and PL are different competitions/organisations which might muddy the waters on points deductions.

And whilst Harry picked the players, nobody forced the owners to write the cheques. As much as I don’t like him, I can’t see that he personally has done too much ;)[/quote]

You make a good point on the different organisations as I read somewhere that QPR are no longer part of the Football League Association and the Premier League have decided they won’t withhold any money in order to help the football league claim any fine – so where does that now leave them. I suspect there are some very hungry lawyers around waiting in the wings to jump all over the legality of it all.

I’m sorry but I’m not for letting Redknapp off so easily as you. He has been involved with some dubious deals in the past and, to me, he definitely was the instrument behind the squad and their wage bill.