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    donnys pageDonnys Page
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      As anyone seen the video of the Leeds players tracking back to win the ball. Hope that is shown at Euxton tomorrow. Seven players to our one.
      Doesnt matter what formation any side is playing when it comes down to work then that sort of work and commitment wins games and its something we need to emulate. Question to is where were our forward players in support?
      I would put it on but havnt any idea how you do that.

      #172903
      bigroybigroy
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        Marcelo Bielsa is known worldwide as a football genius and has wrote coaching manuals on the subject. Paul Cook is a relatively inexperienced coach in comparison and may never develop such knowledge. He has spent hardly a penny this summer but has turned Leeds into a struggling mid table club to one top of the table.

        #172908
        filmossfilmoss
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          Their work ethic today was second to none, ours was pathetic!

          #172920
          Marcelo Bielsa is known worldwide as a football genius and has wrote coaching manuals on the subject. Paul Cook is a relatively inexperienced coach in comparison and may never develop such knowledge. He has spent hardly a penny this summer but has turned Leeds into a struggling mid table club to one top of the table.

          Players’ willingness to track back has nothing to do with writing coaching manuals.
          The players couldn’t be bothered at that point and were just stood watching.
          That’s not about coaching – that’s about giving them a bloody great kick up their backsides to put some effort in.

          #172924
          the otterthe otter
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            There was one numpty near us in the East Stand stood up, red in the face, giving Windass a mouthful when this happened for not taking them on.

            #172925
            The EggThe Egg
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              Marcelo Bielsa is known worldwide as a football genius and has wrote coaching manuals on the subject. Paul Cook is a relatively inexperienced coach in comparison and may never develop such knowledge. He has spent hardly a penny this summer but has turned Leeds into a struggling mid table club to one top of the table.

              Players’ willingness to track back has nothing to do with writing coaching manuals.
              The players couldn’t be bothered at that point and were just stood watching.
              That’s not about coaching – that’s about giving them a bloody great kick up their backsides to put some effort in.[/quote]

              Exactly. At no point will Paul Cook have said “should we get a break away nobody bother busting a gut to get in support just leave him to it” nor would he have said “if a lad makes a run into the box don’t bother following him just leave him in acres of space and leave someone free in the middle for him to pass to” and I heavily doubt his half time team talk to Christian Walton would have said “drop the ball at that lad Roofe’s feet when you get chance. The earlier the better, that should do it”

              Not everything that happens on the field is Cookies fault and at the minute the bits that he can do nothing about are the bits that are screwing us over. IE – Players individual mistakes.

              #172929
              bigroybigroy
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                Bielsas teams play with energy and style which is no coincidence. Am sure the same players last season werent intentionally losing games. The point im making is certain coaches can lift average players to a work rate that others cant.

                #172932
                The EggThe Egg
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                  You’re right there bigroy and Shaun Wane at the rugby is a prime example. Not convinced of his tactical talents but he could get the players to run through walls. Fergie could also get his players to do the same in a footballing sense.

                  I don’t think it’s a lack of that from Paul Cook though as such but it was certainly alarming at how they were first to absolutely everything and usually in 2s and 3s.

                  #172935

                  That breakaway where the 8 Leeds players tracked back to shut out Windass whilst not a single Latics player crossed the half way line was a disgrace.

                  You don’t support Latics if you can’t handle losing but what I’ve always found it hard to stomach is when a player or players don’t give 100% and there’s no way that any of those players ambling upfield for Latics were giving 100%.
                  As Garswood has said they simply couldn’t be bothered or were leaving it up to someone else

                  Not any issue when we get beat by a better team (which Leeds were) & even individual mistakes such as Walton & Kipre for their winner happen, but there’s no excuse for not trying and that’s what that was.

                  I don’t blame Cook for that & I don’t buy his “I was happy with the effort & we got beat by the better side” he said afterwards – no manager can be happy with instances like that and I hope that he just sat them down at training this morning & made them watch that 10-15 second clip over & over again

                  Reet – rant over!!

                  #172936

                  Spot on!!!

                  #172945
                  martinhmartinh
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                    Belting post, Donny, and some interesting opinions. I first read about this passage of play in a great piece on ThreeAmigosLatics but still haven’t watched it. What I would say is that we’ve obviously been hit hard by the injuries to the front four. Will Grigg and Michael Jacobs are hard workers, Powell has the vision and Massey pace to burn. I don’t see many of those qualities among Garner, Windass, Naismith and Connolly. And Windass’s one good game was as a centre forward against West Brom, so why has he been moved back to being a No 10 ever since?

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