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    Sat straight in front of the Penalty decision last night, then watched on Sky later.
    Can’t say that Reece fouled their player; it was more a coming together as Reece went for the 50/50 ball and their player cleverly ran across Reece with a stoop to ensure some degree of contact. It wasn’t a clear foul and no worse that the tackle on Massey, two minutes later.

    #177184
    the otterthe otter
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      It sounds like you was sat near me. It shouldn’t have been given, but it’s one of those incidents where refs are pre-programmed to give something.

      James went for the ball fairly and their player ran in from behind. He didn’t know he was there and surely, you can’t deliberately foul someone you didn’t know was there.

      It may have changed the course of the game, but in the grand scheme of things, we were the architects of our own downfall yet again.

      For all Cook’s faults and limitations. no manager can do anything about the decisions we’ve been on the wrong end of, or the individual howlers like last night’s.

      #177186

      I saw it on sky last night & it didn’t look like a penalty to me. Reece was just going for the ball.

      #177189
      GoalsGaloreGoalsGalore
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        I saw it on sky last night & it didn’t look like a penalty to me. Reece was just going for the ball.

        Sounds like the free kick given at Reading that lead to their first goal. That was no way a foul by Reece.

        #177190
        EdwardsEdwards
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          I must admit my first instinct was “oh no thats a penalty “so if I was the ref I’d have given it. I would have definitely given a penalty for the foul on Massey as that looked more clear cut.

          #177193

          It was a definite penalty – the Blackburn player was just that little bit more alert & got in there with a header ahead of James who was already committed to kicking the ball. As the Blackburn player got there first it meant James’s only connection was with the player so it was a foul

          It doesn’t matter that the Blackburn player came from behind him or that the contact was accidental & not deliberate (it never has to be deliberate to be a foul).

          For the Massey one in real time it looked to me like 2 players bumping/shoulder barging each other for a ball in a dangerous area &, as it was in the penalty area, Massey went down to look for a penalty. I agreed with the ref’s decision not to give it at the time

          Just to add I’ve only seen both incidents in real time on Sky’s red button coverage so haven’t seen any replays since the incidents so my initial impressions may well be wrong

          EDIT – just seen the online Sky short highlights. Definite penalty for them but it doesn’t show the Massey incident but I think if there’s been any controversy about it they would have show it
          Watching it again all 3 goals were really poor ones to give away. Poor header from Dunkley & then a lazy clearance/challenge from James for the first. God knows what Dunkley was attempting to do for the 2nd as he had no-one challenging him & he should have gone towards it with his head instead of waiting for it to come to him at an awkward height & attempting some odd kick thing. As for the 3rd, Jones either didn’t shout loud enough or Olsson wasn’t listening – They’re the types of poor goals given away to an opposition who don’t have to work to create the chance by a side devoid of confidence, low on ability & on a downward spiral

          #177194

          Reece James at fault for the opener at Reading and last night. I suggest (using the logic from here whenever a players makes a mistake) we drop him.

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