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Im of the view lately that Mr whelan has just left us stranded in the premierleague. floating like a dead fish.
If Martinez was manager at the birth of our premierleague days when money was being injected into wages and transfer fee’s i think we’d be in a much better position. I think Martinez is by far the best manager we have had in the premier league.
Our future looks very very bleak. we cannot expect to continue in the premierleague acting like a divison 2/3 out fit. buying lower rate players unfortunately isnt working for us. we could have wenger, ferguson, or mourinho and under our chairman not one of them could keep us up know.
being forced to make cutback after cutback, im not sure how the manager is supposed to compete in the premierleague.
Jewell was given money on wages and transfers, yet still managed to play dog awaful football. Bruce was worse. Martinez is giving us a fighting chance with both our arms cut off and and gangrenous leg.
Roberto has had no money and no way of atttracting any player with an ounce of talent.
not sure where we go from here……….
No money? Didn’t he sign the most expensive player in the clubs history? Not that he played much of course…..
Im of the view lately that Mr whelan has just left us stranded in the premierleague. floating like a dead fish.If Martinez was manager at the birth of our premierleague days when money was being injected into wages and transfer fee’s i think we’d be in a much better position. I think Martinez is by far the best manager we have had in the premier league.
Our future looks very very bleak. we cannot expect to continue in the premierleague acting like a divison 2/3 out fit. buying lower rate players unfortunately isnt working for us. we could have wenger, ferguson, or mourinho and under our chairman not one of them could keep us up know
being forced to make cutback after cutback, im not sure how the manager is supposed to compete in the premierleague.
Jewell was given money on wages and transfers, yet still managed to play dog awaful football. Bruce was worse. Martinez is giving us a fighting chance with both our arms cut off and and gangrenous leg.
Roberto has had no money and no way of atttracting any player with an ounce of talent.
not sure where we go from here……….
Steve Bruce was by far our best Premiership manager, bar Whelan selling a team from underneath him we would have played in Europe.
You carry on believing that Hindley :)
I have no doubt that part of Bob’s remit when he took the managers job was to get the wage bill down. Common sense tells you that if you can only sign poor quality players it’s impossible to get them playing like Barcelona. Arsenal play that way with top quality players and they don’t win things so what chance do little Wigan have????
Im of the view lately that Mr whelan has just left us stranded in the premierleague. floating like a dead fish.If Martinez was manager at the birth of our premierleague days when money was being injected into wages and transfer fee’s i think we’d be in a much better position. I think Martinez is by far the best manager we have had in the premier league.
Our future looks very very bleak. we cannot expect to continue in the premierleague acting like a divison 2/3 out fit. buying lower rate players unfortunately isnt working for us. we could have wenger, ferguson, or mourinho and under our chairman not one of them could keep us up know.
being forced to make cutback after cutback, im not sure how the manager is supposed to compete in the premierleague.
Jewell was given money on wages and transfers, yet still managed to play dog awaful football. Bruce was worse. Martinez is giving us a fighting chance with both our arms cut off and and gangrenous leg.
Roberto has had no money and no way of atttracting any player with an ounce of talent.
not sure where we go from here……….
What else could Mr Whelan have done? he has kept season ticket prices ridiculously low in an attempt to swell the gates which he has had no reward from except falling attendances.The big clubs pay obscene wages forcing the rest to pay high wages even for mediocre players.We are rarely on TV live so revenue isnt brilliant.Agents and players think their worth is a lot more than it really is so transfer fees are inflated.Yet amidst all the financial pressure of being in the Prem and the vast debts that go with it Mr Whelan has assured this clubs future by running it with great acumen.He hasnt got millions to throw at it like some but in all honesty he has done a bloody better job than some who have.
On Bobby Mr Whelan has got it wrong,yes he has cut wages etc but his main priority is as first team coach/manager which imho he has made a hash of.We cant compete and never will but we could have tried harder on the pitch even with the squad we have if only RM would have been open to change.
For me the business of football is a failed model, that teams like Wigan can only dream of maintaining a place in the top flight. We dont have the revenue to maintain a challenge beyond the tv money, and as much as we think its a fortune, it probably gets burnt away pretty bad.
A lot of the probelem we are seeing is down to the financial model in the club and lack of cash available to purchase and keep players.
We dont have a strong enough squad of players to keep us up and it was proved last year, on our day we were a decent team who kept together for a few months and got us out of the trouble. We had one true star Nzogbia who kept us up. This year we are struggling, players looking tired and no real desire to win.
I support Bob and what he is trying to achieve, and given the constraints he is under is destined to fail.
I embrace relegation as a fresh start and hope whelan invests enough to keep us afloat long term.
What else could Mr Whelan have done? he has kept season ticket prices ridiculously low in an attempt to swell the gates which he has had no reward from except falling attendances.The big clubs pay obscene wages forcing the rest to pay high wages even for mediocre players.We are rarely on TV live so revenue isnt brilliant.Agents and players think their worth is a lot more than it really is so transfer fees are inflated.Yet amidst all the financial pressure of being in the Prem and the vast debts that go with it Mr Whelan has assured this clubs future by running it with great acumen.He hasnt got millions to throw at it like some but in all honesty he has done a bloody better job than some who have.
On Bobby Mr Whelan has got it wrong,yes he has cut wages etc but his main priority is as first team coach/manager which imho he has made a hash of.We cant compete and never will but we could have tried harder on the pitch even with the squad we have if only RM would have been open to change.[/quote]
Dont get me wrong and i can see how my post came across. I dont believe whelan could have done anymore in the early stages of us going up. But to get us here and then decide to pull the money out of the club is leaving us ‘stranded’ in the money pit of the premierleague. He knew we would never get massive gates, he knew we would not attract sky coverage every other week.Mr Whelan has made good money in this journey. I dont believe for one minute that he hasnt. His decision to now withdraw his backing leaves us going backwards. if this were his intention then maybe in the cold light of day it would have been better to do the whole – ‘leaving the club on a good financial footing’ a little earlier rather than splashing the cash in the lower leagues, when a lot of the debt was initially accumulated.
There is no doubt that Bobby is working under the sort of financial constraints that no other top flight Latics manager has had to work under so i agree that Latics performance in terms of points & league positions does need to be looked at in that light.
However there are errors that he makes week after week which have absolutely nothing to do with financial constraints which contribute greatly to Latics performances & which highlight his numerous shortcomings as a manager.
You only have to look at Saturday & his decision, in light of Alcaraz’s injury, to drop Stam to bring Boyce back at right back & Gohouri at centre half. Are you seriously telling me that there is anybody on here who would have looked the the defensive choices available on Saturday & thought that was the best option?
A good manager who adapt his team’s style & tactics to suit the players he has available yet after 2 years he’s still trying to get Gary Caldwell to play it out from the back instead of just getting it & then getting rid.As I said, yes he was always going to find it harder than previous bosses to unearth good enough players with less cash but to focus solely or mainly on that allows his numerous failings to be brushed under the carpet
Mr Whelan has made good money in this journey. I dont believe for one minute that he hasnt.I’d strongly dispute that. What I think Mr Whelan has achieved from this is similar to a ‘money can’t buy’ experience, but what is actually a ‘Sh*t loads of money can buy’ experience.
He’s never been short of an ego or an opinion, and with Wigan reaching the Premier League he’s been given a soap box from which to preach to the nation.
Everybody who is remotely interested in football in Britain now knows who Dave Whelan is. Prior to 2005, they didn’t.
His investment may not have brought him financial returns, but it has bought him nationwide notoriety.
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