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We wouldn’t be able to afford McLaren & he’d want a transfer kitty which we aint going to have much of.
Think we need to be lowering our sights on this one. What about them two lads at Lincoln City, Danny & Nicky Cowley. Lincoln seemed to play in the right way from what little I’ve seen of them in the cup.
So did Rosler jimmy he played the right way at Brentford until he was forced to work with Barrow and was brainwashed into the Bobby way of doing things. What it is gonna take to get shut of this Mon. 5 managers later and the fireproof one is still here. Doesn’t matter who the next man is he will be told how to do it.[/quote]
Nah, have to disagree with that one.
Despite his relative success there, Rosler was never universally popular with the fans at Brentford due to his playing style & his constant rotation system.
In fact he wasn’t universally popular with his players either & there were calls for him to be sacked until there was a clear the air meeting with the players where they aired their grievances & Rosler agreed to stop swapping the players about – result: they went on a barnstorming run that resulted in him getting the job hereBut then low & behold all the things that Brentford fans weren’t happy with him about whilst he was there, began to quickly manifest at Latics
To blame Barrow for Rosler’s errors is quite frankly ludicrous
Come on lets blame it all on Barrow. All the managers have had different styles, no way Barrow has that influence over them. It’s not as though he’s the assistant either, he’s the coach and he may be a good one for all we know. It’s not him that picks the team and tactics.
Funny then how the report says “Graham Barrow his assistant ” takes over till the end of the season. as for different styles in what way?. Rosler has Fleetwood playing football like he did at Brentford are you trying to tell me he played the same open style here?[/quote]
Rosler, Caldwell and Joyce were definitely different styles
We shall see over the next few weeks how good Barrow is, If he turns it round ill be the first to eat humble pie but I wont be holding my breath. He should have gone when Bobby did then just maybe we wouldn’t be searching for a sixth manager since RM left.Are you seriously saying Barrow is responsible for the failings of 6 managers?
Boards got it wrong 6 times or the same assistant should have gone years ago?
Same tactics of 1 up top and more men defending a corner than attacking one. Pass pass pass pass pass boredom.
Il say it now. Barrow out!
We shall see over the next few weeks how good Barrow is, If he turns it round ill be the first to eat humble pie but I wont be holding my breath. He should have gone when Bobby did then just maybe we wouldn’t be searching for a sixth manager since RM left.
Are you seriously saying Barrow is responsible for the failings of 6 managers?[/quote]
A number 2 can be priceless as we had with Hutchings he was nothing more and failed badly as a manager and have you also forgot Barrow has been sacked before . Time will tell if I’m right but you tell me why you think so many managers had bit the dust here. Whatever style of play formation etc a club should not go through so many managers in such a short time. The common denominator here is Barrow and just maybe some who have been in the hot seat resented having to work with him and it hindered their progress. One fact that cannot be denied is that for whatever reason with Barrow in his role it hasn’t worked whoever the manager was. We have gone down the sacking route and fortunes haven’t changed so look at what else could be wrong. I don’t expect our style to suddenly be cavalier but I’m desperately hoping to be off the mark.
We shall see over the next few weeks how good Barrow is, If he turns it round ill be the first to eat humble pie but I wont be holding my breath. He should have gone when Bobby did then just maybe we wouldn’t be searching for a sixth manager since RM left.
Are you seriously saying Barrow is responsible for the failings of 6 managers?[/quote]
A number 2 can be priceless as we had with Hutchings he was nothing more and failed badly as a manager and have you also forgot Barrow has been sacked before . Time will tell if I’m right but you tell me why you think so many managers had bit the dust here. Whatever style of play formation etc a club should not go through so many managers in such a short time. The common denominator here is Barrow and just maybe some who have been in the hot seat resented having to work with him and it hindered their progress. One fact that cannot be denied is that for whatever reason with Barrow in his role it hasn’t worked whoever the manager was. We have gone down the sacking route and fortunes haven’t changed so look at what else could be wrong. I don’t expect our style to suddenly be cavalier but I’m desperately hoping to be off the mark.[/quote]
The manager tells the coach what to do & not the other way round. Like another poster has said, Caldwell, Rosler, Coyle, MacKay all had different styles so to think he’s the tail wagging the dog & keeps changing his mind about the style of football he likes, to me, doesn’t make any sense
Now, I’m not saying that he is a good coach, I haven’t got the foggiest, & I do find it odd that he seems to stay no matter who the manager is but to say he is responsible for the failure of consecutive managers doesn’t make any sense
I should also point out that I don’t think he’ll be able to save this season as i don’t think he is a good enough manager
I’m fully expecting us to go down tilders and like you don’t think Barrow is good enough but I’m hoping he shoves it down my throat simply don’t see it happening.
We shall see over the next few weeks how good Barrow is, If he turns it round ill be the first to eat humble pie but I wont be holding my breath. He should have gone when Bobby did then just maybe we wouldn’t be searching for a sixth manager since RM left.
Are you seriously saying Barrow is responsible for the failings of 6 managers?[/quote]
A number 2 can be priceless as we had with Hutchings he was nothing more and failed badly as a manager and have you also forgot Barrow has been sacked before . Time will tell if I’m right but you tell me why you think so many managers had bit the dust here. Whatever style of play formation etc a club should not go through so many managers in such a short time. The common denominator here is Barrow and just maybe some who have been in the hot seat resented having to work with him and it hindered their progress. One fact that cannot be denied is that for whatever reason with Barrow in his role it hasn’t worked whoever the manager was. We have gone down the sacking route and fortunes haven’t changed so look at what else could be wrong. I don’t expect our style to suddenly be cavalier but I’m desperately hoping to be off the mark.[/quote]
The manager tells the coach what to do & not the other way round. Like another poster has said, Caldwell, Rosler, Coyle, MacKay all had different styles so to think he’s the tail wagging the dog & keeps changing his mind about the style of football he likes, to me, doesn’t make any sense
Now, I’m not saying that he is a good coach, I haven’t got the foggiest, & I do find it odd that he seems to stay no matter who the manager is but to say he is responsible for the failure of consecutive managers doesn’t make any sense
I should also point out that I don’t think he’ll be able to save this season as i don’t think he is a good enough manager[/quote]
Tyldesley you’ve summed up my thoughts so saved me typing my reply to Nuneaton. However the debates irrelevant really, its whether he can perform the miracle as a manager and keep us up. I’m afraid were all in agreement there, just can’t see it.
Those jumping on the Barrows to blame bandwagon are out of order.
The guys a latics mon through and through a legend. His loyalty is being rewarded by the club.
As for Jewell, would be good but remember ther porn star tale behind his sacking…no way will whelan have him back even if he was available.We wouldn’t be able to afford McLaren & he’d want a transfer kitty which we aint going to have much of.Think we need to be lowering our sights on this one. What about them two lads at Lincoln City, Danny & Nicky Cowley. Lincoln seemed to play in the right way from what little I’ve seen of them in the cup.
I doubt it’d be those two, but with no parachute payment and no substantial transfer kitty, the next appointment needs to be someone with a background of improving a club, and bringing through youth players without spending big bucks.
Someone like Nigel Adkins might fit the bill.
The Cowley,s work as a pair not allowed here so they are never going to be in the running. Someone has mentioned Adkins and we do like to employ ex players so that may be a good shout.
Those jumping on the Barrows to blame bandwagon are out of order.
The guys a latics mon through and through a legend. His loyalty is being rewarded by the club.
As for Jewell, would be good but remember ther porn star tale behind his sacking…no way will whelan have him back even if he was available.Jewell wasn’t sacked big Dave wanted him to stay, plus I’m sure there wont be many that remember his porn star exploits.
The Cowley,s work as a pair not allowed here so they are never going to be in the running. Someone has mentioned Adkins and we do like to employ ex players so that may be a good shout.No they don’t – the older brother is the manager & the younger brother is his assistant. Just like Joyce was allowed to fire existing coaching staff & bring in some new ones, I’d imagine that any new manager would be allowed to do so too.
I’d say that they should be in the running if they’re interested. Please not Adkins though – his time has been & gone & he’s performed poorly in his last few appointments
The Cowley,s work as a pair not allowed here so they are never going to be in the running. Someone has mentioned Adkins and we do like to employ ex players so that may be a good shout.
No they don’t – the older brother is the manager & the younger brother is his assistant. Just like Joyce was allowed to fire existing coaching staff & bring in some new ones, I’d imagine that any new manager would be allowed to do so too.
I’d say that they should be in the running if they’re interested. Please not Adkins though – his time has been & gone & he’s performed poorly in his last few appointments[/quote]
Exactly my point Barrow is assistant manager and irremovable so how are the Cowleys gonna fit?. Joyce was allowed to fire coaching staff not his assistant and that is why we will go for someone who will agree to this arrangement. Please don’t say Barrow wasn’t the assistant just read every report on Joyce,s sacking.
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