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Seems we’re on a mission to alienate as many as possible.
BBC Radio Manchester was covering the game yesterday and on the way back from the match Jimmy Wagg said the club had refused to allow them – the BBC – to do an after-match interview with Mackay on his own because they hadn’t been supportive of the club during the past week.
The BBC website report of the game said:
The Scot received a mixed reception at his first game since allegations that he sent homophobic, sexist and racist text messages while at Cardiff.Mixed reception? Did he?
After recent attempts to justify our actions, perhaps it is better just to keep our heads down and play football.
I doubt Radio Manchester were attempting to assist us; more likely looking for another slip of the tongue or misplaced word.
I don’t disagree with what you’ve said but I’m not sure having spats with the media is a good idea either.
You can go to Radio 5 Live website and listen to Gary Richardsons’ piece about us and his interview with Lord Oulson who is trying everything to find a way of persecuting DW. He even advocates that what is said in private can no longer be deemed that (if it affects the well-being of persons, youth, and/or match fixing). Complete and utter tripe and smacks of the thought police. I think that he and the Kick It Out brigade have backed themselves into a corner by holding onto the shirt tails of a feeding frenzy media, opportunistic hacks and people like Tan and Gold trying to bully their way onto the big scene.
I agree that we, the club, should lie low for a while, however, Mr Whelan should be ready for a counter claim against these offensive and sickening people who have openly lambasted him in public.
I think it will wait until after the FA hearing and what the verdict will be before any response to Tan’s outburst
I would love him to sue Tan for calling him a racist.What about Tan’s quote “all Wigan fans now think it is ok to be racist” is this not discrimination?. Surely this dullard has also over stepped the mark. It has certainly not been a good week to be a Latics fan and we have done nowt wrong.
I would love him to sue Tan for calling him a racist.
and you far calling him a Loon ![/quote]
When did I do that?
It has certainly not been a good week to be a Latics fan.Personally I haven’t felt that at all.
More or less 100% of people I have spoken to from quite a mix of locality, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc., have seen the whole thing as a stir (not even in a storm) in a tea cup.
One thing it has done is to get us all talking about racism, sexism, and homophobia, including the sensitive issue of where the line is drawn between what is acceptable (banter?) and what is not.
Yesterday the middlesborough fans sang ‘you’re just a town full of racists’ but that itself was only half hearted and nothing but ‘banter’.
Ashamed to be a Latics fan? not even closeHas Guy Mowbray offered his opinion yet?
The commentator (BBC or elsewhere) who hates us the most.
DW should have kept his mouth shut…but we will always close ranks when we have to. Hence the welcome for DW yesterday.
Jermain Jenas pissed me off; saying he felt sorry for Boycey being forced to speak up for Malky, as if he was especially selected because of the tone of his skin.
He’s the Club Captain FFS. If Ivan was Captain then it would have been his job. Or should we have chosen the ball boy instead ?
Talk about Fkin chip on his shoulder :angry: :angry: :angry:
You can go to Radio 5 Live website and listen to Gary Richardsons’ piece about us and his interview with Lord Oulson who is trying everything to find a way of persecuting DW. He even advocates that what is said in private can no longer be deemed that (if it affects the well-being of persons, youth, and/or match fixing). Complete and utter tripe and smacks of the thought police. I think that he and the Kick It Out brigade have backed themselves into a corner by holding onto the shirt tails of a feeding frenzy media, opportunistic hacks and people like Tan and Gold trying to bully their way onto the big scene.I agree that we, the club, should lie low for a while, however, Mr Whelan should be ready for a counter claim against these offensive and sickening people who have openly lambasted him in public.
This is what FA Chairman Greg Dyke said about the sexist e-mails Peter Scudamore sent:-
“In terms of FA disciplinary policy we, as the FA, could have considered taking action had Mr Scudamore’s statements been made in the public arena.
“However our policy has always been that we do not consider something stated in a private email communication to amount to professional misconduct.
“We do, however, consider the content of the emails to be totally inappropriate.”
I suspect that is what Whelan was referring to when he said he’d had assurances from the FA that no significant action would be taken against Mackay as a result of the text messages he’d sent.
So has a precedent been set and if so will that be changed now with respect to what Mackay has said? If Mackay is found guilty will that mean Scudamore is also guilty?
I am assuming text and email messages in this case are considered to be the same.
You can go to Radio 5 Live website and listen to Gary Richardsons’ piece about us and his interview with Lord Oulson who is trying everything to find a way of persecuting DW. He even advocates that what is said in private can no longer be deemed that (if it affects the well-being of persons, youth, and/or match fixing). Complete and utter tripe and smacks of the thought police. I think that he and the Kick It Out brigade have backed themselves into a corner by holding onto the shirt tails of a feeding frenzy media, opportunistic hacks and people like Tan and Gold trying to bully their way onto the big scene.
I agree that we, the club, should lie low for a while, however, Mr Whelan should be ready for a counter claim against these offensive and sickening people who have openly lambasted him in public.
This is what FA Chairman Greg Dyke said about the sexist e-mails Peter Scudamore sent:-
“In terms of FA disciplinary policy we, as the FA, could have considered taking action had Mr Scudamore’s statements been made in the public arena.
“However our policy has always been that we do not consider something stated in a private email communication to amount to professional misconduct.
“We do, however, consider the content of the emails to be totally inappropriate.”
I suspect that is what Whelan was referring to when he said he’d had assurances from the FA that no significant action would be taken against Mackay as a result of the text messages he’d sent.
So has a precedent been set and if so will that be changed now with respect to what Mackay has said? If Mackay is found guilty will that mean Scudamore is also guilty?
I am assuming text and email messages in this case are considered to be the same.[/quote]
Yes I believe a precedent has been set (I think I mentioned this point in an earlier post) and I totally agree that if MacKay is found guilty then so should be Scudamore.
I read recently that the FA were trying to manoeuvre their comments around Dykes’ findings, however, I think that will prove very difficult. The only way out for them would be to find as Dyke did for Scudamore, draw a line under it and put it down to part of the learning curve then make the necessary changes to their policies. Anything less will appear as double standards and will open them to the same trust currently being enjoyed by FIFA and the world cup allegations.
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