Yet more praise for Roberto…

And what would he know, useless ex-professional footballer that he is?

No, I would rather listen a bunch of know-nowts on here, to be honest.

It might all go horribly wrong eventually, but I’m not about to panic after 4 league games, almost 2 of which were very promising performances (Villa, half a United, and around half an Everton)

Anyone else think that this meeting could of been a sounding out of him as to whether he wants to return in any capacity?

Especially with the rumours going around at the moment!

The experts know best. We have been relegated and lost every game for the past 4 years. Stoke were relegated last year. Didn’t you know, if an ex pro speaks it’s always correct.

Ive seen every game so far apart from Blackpool which to me was a reserve fixture. Now at Villa we looked World beaters but we still gave them a few chances. Against St Mirren so so but it was a warm up game. Wolves game was terrible and it knocked us for 6 but i honestly think if we hadnt played these so early it would be a different matter, they knew how to play us and had played bobbys side twice last year. Man utd we looked ok for 59 minutes and it was only when the second goal went in i think we lost our heads and started to look weak. In my opinion we looked decent against everton, yeah it was a struggle but we played against 12 men 11 of whom are considered in the top7 teams in the league and were desperate for a win and still held our own.

For me the problem is a few things:
1. We never had a proper pre season. Things were not booked and the manager being brought in took longer than expected.
2. Bruce, he knew he was leaving in febuary/march time you could see it in his actions. He then whether knowingly or not didnt make plans for this year. For instance he never made bookings for preseason meaning we struggled to find games, he did his old trick of releasing players without having plans in place to replace them, and he had taken team morale to a low.
3. Bobby took time coming in then insisted bringing in his scouts that had been scouting for a mid table championship team and had players in mind for that.
4. Whelan let Bruce take everyone behind the scenes.
5. We let Catts go at the wrong time making it look like every player had a price making the squad nervous.
6. Rumours are abound in the football world that we are skint and its because the banks have withdrawn/lowered our loan faciltys thats why we are reducing the debt.
7. The players weve signed speak a variety of languages causing tension in the dressing room and cliques till everyone learns english ( should we make the english players learn spanish?)
8. On the pitch because of the changes every week we havent had a chance to learn how to play together.
9. Some players still keep trying the old hoof ball even though the team isnt set up for that.
10. We havent replaced like for like and the players weve brought in will need time to bed in or are poor.
11. We are not physically big enough as a side or fast enough.

However this will change and im sure from the next match we will look stronger.

And still learned nowt! :)

You’re right, not all ex-pros know everything. But they have probably forgotten more about football than 99% on this board will ever know about football.

And yes, you’re in the 99%[/quote]

so i am in that 99% am i ? and pray tell me where what i said is wrong

“i have never seen poorer and more disjointed displays with the most inept
tactics and painfully slow passing and movement in a latics side for many many years,
and that is down to one man”

seeing as in your opinion you and the other martinez is god brigade seem to think
you are the other 1%, and therfore must be right.

I never once said that Martinez is “God”. He has a lot to learn and we will undoubtedly lose more than we win under this style of play but I, for one, am more than happy to watch this style.

Patently not true.

i have never once in my life said or believed anyone elses opinion does not count and i dont insult people like you either when they have a different outylook from yours,even though you more than deserve it.

but i will ask you again,please in your opinion,of which i value,tell me what is wrong in what i said ?

“i have never seen poorer and more disjointed displays with the most inept
tactics and painfully slow passing and movement in a latics side for many many years,
and that is down to one man”

perhaps this time you may answer without fudging or trying to score points