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I’m sure Danson moved the goalpost and Lowe received far less than he was promised which in-turn made him angry and frustrated.
By all accounts it’s business as per usual at Wigan. Lowe has been in a meeting today discussing recruiting and potential targets.
Think of it this way, would you go to a mangerless club in a Jan window ?. I’m sure Dansons thought this out and once Saturdays games out the way and the windows shut then and only then will be be relieved of his job.
I heard a good call earlier online
Leighton Baines
Alot of ex players reckon he’ll eventually go on to manage Everton so we might just be a good fit.
And I’m in no doubt that 13 years in the Prem,145 games (5 years for us) 348 games for Everton, 30 England caps he’d love to give it a go.
Oh and he’s only ever played for 2 clubs in 18 years as a pro which says a lot.
If our players don’t respect that they need to leave and leave now. Between Baines and G.Whelan I’m sure they’ll get us out this mess
As for tactics last night, one I spotted was,
Why was Moxon suddenly the designated free kick (into box) taker and corner taker over Murray ?.
Bare in mind he scored from a corner on his debut so you’d think he’d be a target to aim for.
This just shows you the crazy instructions given from the bench.
We are devoid of pace and the only guy who can stretch teams late on was given a full 9 minutes to save Lowe’s job Asamoah.
The lad is chomping at the bit and Lowe prefers pass pass pass. To be frank, I’ll be made up when he’s sacked because that last night, the 60 minutes at Doncaster coupled with the Cardiff then Bolton performances are some of the worse performaces I’ve seen since the Joyce and Toure era’s and they take some beating
I thought even after the goal we were the better side but again were gutless up top.
Raphael’s assist just proves what I’ve been saying for months, we don’t posess wingbacks.
Matt Smiths sat so deep it’s virtually impossible to make things tick. Then at 2-0 down Lowe basically went to a back 4 in a last gasp effort.
Lowe’s paid the price for not adapting a system to suit players at hand.
He has to go, period. There’s something not right. I noticed near the end Fox went to the bench to grab a drink and Lowe and Fox basically blanked each other. That’s his most senior player getting zero instructions or encouragement.
I think there’s enough backroom staff to see this season out without panicking and bringing in a rush job manager.
One that comes to mind
Leighton Baines
If you have a wingback who can bomb up and down, cross,tackle,defend believe you me he isn’t at your club long.
The player at our level will have 1 or 2 of those attributes but will lack in another department.
The only player I’ve ever seen to play that complete role was Ashley Cole. It’s a modern role brought to the UK by foreign managers who don’t mind winning 5-4 but right now at Wigan :-
1) We don’t have any player who can play wingbacks
2) Our 3 centre halfs struggle when the wingbacks fail
3) midfield constantly get dragged back into a defending role
A prime example was Bolton at home. A few days later Bolton were held to a dour 0-0 after been beaten by Port Vale.
But Lowe persists with this kamikaze style football even though it doesn’t suit the players we have.
Dansons tightened the purse strings so tight they’d be lucky get hot water in the showers that we can’t bring anyone in without someone having to leave first.
As I stated before I’d 100% play 4-5-1
get 3 in the midfield and get that battle won now Moxon here one lone striker but with the spare man in the middle and 2 widemen who aren’t filling their trollies incase they don’t get back and they can push further up diag balls in behind
If we had Ashley Cole type left right backs yeah wingbacks all the way but the simple fact is, we don’t, and we never will.
The sign of a brilliant manager is a manager who can read a players best attributes and he builds a system to bring out the best in his players and pieces his jigsaw together especially when you have no money to change things.
His jobs not to ask players to play in a system they simply aren’t good enough to play in.
Me?
Lowe won’t change so it’s time to change Lowe before L2 beckons. His system style is failing badly and for us to be 3 down against a club struggling in the bottom 3 spoke volumes
My argument is asking players to do a job they’ve probably never done before and one is
Wingbacks
It takes a serious type of player the master the art of attack and defense and reading the game so as your not caught out.
Lowe relies on this 3 at the back which means they constantly get pulled left, right and centre due to wingbacks not defensively minded.
Asking Hungbo to defend ?, I’m sorry but it’s a step too far. So he puts Murray in and tbh he’s no better at defending.
This just puts pressure on the back 3 and low and behold we look wide open.
Moxon looked ok in the second half and Taylor’s goal out of nothing was superb. But, those goals should be putting us into a winning position not chasing Doncaster’s 3 goals.
Lowe for me needs a reality check, he can’t stick to a system when he doesn’t have the type of player to execute it.
It’s not happening for Lowe and he needs to go. I honestly cannot see Tickle staying, I’m in no doubt Danson will force the sale so Lowe can strengthen
Tickles under the cosh because of the defense badly failing. That 3rd Doncaster goal was a Keystone Cop moment.
3-3 doesn’t paper over the cavern size cracks in the team. I’ll never boo our players, never have never will. Nor will I sing “He’s getting sacked in the morning” which I totally disagree with but I can fully understand the travelling fans frustration.
Just got back and Lowe needs to go. I won’t go into the finer details but 3-3 doesn’t paint over the sh*t show.
If it wasn’t for Tickle making 4 tremendous saves we’d have lost that 7-3
40 quid for a cup game that’s on the TV and on a Sunday is a fookin p!ss take.
What extra would they make from £25-£40 ?. Let’s say we take 2000
£30k extra?, fookin wow
Half a day’s pay for Saka, times must be tight for Arsenal tight bar stewards
The burning million dollar question is,
Does Lowe have what it takes to keep us up?.
Based on Preston, yes
Based on recent League performances Burton yes
Based on Cardiff no
Based on Bolton no
It’s not the losses it’s the manner of those losses. A few days later Bolton put in another dour 0-0 performance away at Stevenage which proves one thing, Bolton didn’t beat us, we beat ourselves with the shit scared tactics Lowe gave the players, the exact same tactics he gave out away at Cardiff.
For me he has to go, I’m sorry but if he stays in place our position in L1 might be under the cosh.
His fear of winning a game is far outweighed by his fear of losing a game.
The tell tale signs that things aren’t right in the camp are, when players like Murray suddenly lose form and the manager drops the likes of Asamoah for performing well
I always think back to the interview he did were he mentioned certain players aren’t doing this, that, the other at the training ground, that is a recipe for a disaster.
Things a slowly creeping up on us and the next thing we’ll be in a dog fight to stay in the division.
If we go down I’m sorry I’ll pick my games next year. If Danson can’t get this shit show going and show willing then I’ll do the same
Next season will be no different from the rest 14-16 out 14-16 in mostly free and loans and from lower leagues than us.
Take the signing of Moxon on loan, I’m not one for slating any player till I’ve seen them play a dozen or so games but on paper his previous doesn’t get you excited.
He spent the vast majority of his career (9 years in total) in the lower Scottish Leagues and Carlisle.
Portsmouth sell Stockport then loan out. Now I’m not saying whether he’s a good or bad signing I’ll put that on hold till I’ve seen him, he might be a world beater.
But looking at his age, his previous clubs and the amount of EFL games he’s played I’m not so sure he’s at L1 level, I hope he proves me wrong
Well if he left Asamoah for Taylor he’s a bellend. I don’t even think Taylor would have been bothered not to be thrown in just after signing.
When Asamoah got the pen at Preston you could see what it meant to him the way he celebrated.
Then I’m thinking we have that holding mid problem or defender and Mellish is on loan.
Now people might go “he’s not good enough” I would have agreed when he first arrived but he grew into the job and was never scared to bomb forward and to be honest, he’s as good as anything we’ve got at the moment. He’s a regular in a side that would us comfortabley right now.
But dropping Asamoah will have crushed that lads emotions. To come on against a side in 3th in the Championship and tear them apart then to be repaid by being dropped in our derby
Lowe got that one wrong, seriously wrong. Time to go before L2 beckons
That game was clearly lost in the middle of the park. Once that midfield was lost it was all about dropping back in.
Matt Smith stunk the place out. This guy needed to get a foothold on the ball but instead he was back peddling for most of the game totally uninvolved. I’d comfortably say it was his worse performance in a Wigan shirt.
There’s no way he should have been still on that park till the 87th minute he was truly pathetic and to top it off his header out lead to the goal.
Possession 32%
Shots on target 0
Corners 1
Crosses 2
For me Hungbo and Raphael are not confident in playing a wing back roll and were caught out numerous times which in turn means Weir and Smith were constantly having to drop back in.
This just added pressure and it built up all the way through the 2nd half.
We’d be much better off
Flat back 4 Robinson in
2 wide
3 mid (one attacking)
One up front.
Lowe for me put everything into that Preston game purely for a one-upmanship on his old club and Bolton was an after thought and it showed.
He got out gunned and out thought for the full 90. One more thing, was Asamoah injured ?, because if he wasn’t and he was simply dropped for Taylor Lowe wants his arse kicking. Against Preston Asamoah’s pace alone put the fear of God into them.
A loss against Doncaster will put us a point off the drop zone and only then will the harse reality hit home that L2 beckons unless Lowe gets it right asap and stop pissing around with 3 at the back.
I’ve had enough of this defend first attack if possible but not essential tactics like the Bolton and Cardiff games.
We were comprehensively beaten by a side who’d won 2 in 7, drawn with Doncaster and lost to Port Vale, which showed they were clearly out of form.
Lowe out?, Preston fans warned us when he took over, I simply thought sour grapes but it’s not looking like that now.
He seems void of tactics and his post match interviews ? I have to check the date of the videos because they don’t seem to be about the game I watched.
I personally think we’ll be going to Arsenal minus Tickle. I just have this feeling someone’s gonna make an offer Danson can’t refuse.
I reckon we’ll play on the Sunday and we’ll move our Luton game to Weds
Arsenal would have been a decent away day bar they play on the Thursday away at Brentford so it will be Sunday or even Monday.
I’d lean more to thinking it will be in the Sunday. I just hope it’s not a 12:15 job or worse, 4:30 either way forget the train
The best owners we’ve had were Talal’s gang. It was such a shame they hadn’t a clue about running a club and then people like Brannigan sent us down the river dishing out false promises
I always said, Sharpies chippy was the perfect opportunity too make a unique indoor fanzone experience for home fans. A big car park for when the weather’s nicer for both the rugby and football then use it for other things when both aren’t at home say events, music, beer festival who knows, but ooh no.
This clubs been run to the ground, it’s all about cost cutting, saving pennies and an owner and board sat on top of the hill with little or no interaction.
My worry is, this has gone on for years and there’s a generation of kids lost to the big 4 neighbors.
We’re are the next lot of fans gonna come from when coming to the football is a bland boring stale experience?.
Danson talks about being “Self sufficient”, and I agree to an extent but when he took over the club it was in desperate need of a makeover. Little had been done on the maintenance front for years and now it’s showing, the ground looks tired.
One gripe I have is the TV’s on all the concourses. Now it might seem petty but at half time it’s a conversationa piece, people going over scores, scorers, league positions or even our match highlights.
The TVs are currently fcuk all bar advertising boards. The two TVs I stand near both don’t work. I go away to some shit hole 6k capacity ground and there’s a TV with Sky on while ours show were to hire a scaffold tower.
The food and ale I don’t touch on the concourse, I prefer not to spend 15 minutes queuing then 5 minutes throwing it back especially when there’s only about 50 queing up.
Again it’s all about cost cutting on every level and it shows. I looked at the age of people in Whelan’s bar the other week and most are in their 50’s plus.
I walk round and there’s less and less kids. Were’s the next gen of fans gonna come from. I’ll always hark back to Charlton years ago. They honed in on kids making it a day out for them then big discounts for families.
Bradford for instance, surely it’s better having 20k on discounted tickets than 10k paying full wack?.
I’ve said it from day one
“The vessels too big for the pond”
The ground was always too big. 15k would have been perfect. The demand would have gone up and I’ll guarantee we’d be pulling 8k-10k every week even now.
I think I’m coming to the end of a season ticket. I’ve done 40 years+ and there’s no spark, these past years have drained the footballing life out of me.
Then the bridge over the canal. I’ve read the letters Harry from The Bricks write and the council and Nandys reply.
Through all the pieces I keep reading “unsafe” but there’s one word missing “Structurally”. Not once has anyone said it’s structurally unsafe.
If it’s structurally unsafe whether it’s handrails or grip flooring loose it would be closed 24/7 but it’s not.
I noticed this season a huge police presence both sides and it makes you wonder, has the old DW argument about who pays for what regarding policing has raised it’s ugly head.
If police pull the plug this side of the bridge is that deemed unsafe so they close it 12-6 ?.
If it was structurally unsafe there would be a report done on the bridges integrity but the council don’t seem to have one.
For me it’s cost cutting that’s closed it
Next year I’ll pick n choose because if the owner can’t be arsed neither can I
