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It’s definitely work in progress but the problem is, how many times do we say this ? It’s yearly re-building a squad every transfer window.
Personally I like S.Smith I think he’s always putting himself about making players rush on the ball pressing which is always an thankless task.
I can see him slotting in at right back as the season goes but Adeeko, I’m afraid he’s going to struggle to get back in.
The key word is consistency, we need at times to get ugly and grind results out. The moving the ball back to front was encouraging along with corners been whipped which lead to two goals.
For me Weir was a breath of fresh air, that missing link from defenders to been on the front foot. You can tell he’s been coached very well.
I see Huddlestones fooked off and dumped us for money. I’d like to be the first to say thanks for fook all good ridence.
I always had a feeling we were nothing more than a stop gap while his CVs were still been flung around like sh*t off a shovel.
He’ll soon be in the CL with Burrr-ming-hame
Only time will tell if he can maintain the form to a point. If we play like Rovers and Brum we’ll do ok but if we revert to his possession style slow build up then launch it to the widemen were f*cked.
Look, I want him to do well but he needed to try something else and now it looks like the pennies dropped.
There’s an old saying it’s “Horses for courses” which means play to your players strengths don’t try to make them do what doesn’t suit.
Do we want Weir sat in the middle passing left right back ? No we want him driving forward drawing players making space.Utter waste of time and pointless tippy tappy football at L1 level, direct in your face front foot football is the way forward.
No one would complain if we played like Saturday and lost as long as we go down trying giving it a go it’s the only thing we all wanna see1st thing I noticed about yesterday, the decision to whip the ball in from corners.
Chambers corners dropped right into the danger zone and on a good day lady luck shines on you hence 2 goals from 2corners yesterday.
I know one thing, tippy tappy short corners are sh*t and don’t work for us so why Maloney insisted on short corners for so long is beyond me.I say whip the f**ker in and take your chance. Chambers proved he’s the man for that. Also I’ve noticed we’ve started to move the ball faster back to front and utilising wide players.
My gripe is, one man and his dog, cat and budgie have been screaming for these changes to be made and now that Maloney has suddenly started to adopt these changes we look like a different animal.
I’d sooner lose 4-3 than 1-0 attacking front foot football than the tippy tappy out from the back and followed by a 40yard up n under and the f**kin annoying short corners.
Let’s hope that Maloney has seen that, although he prefers the Martinez possession style of football playing it out from the back trying to draw opposition players out L1 sides don’t come out they sit deep and wait.
My fear is he will slowly fall back into his old ways like he did from Birmingham to the 2 cup games.
Yesterday he must have seen that front foot move it quick less passes getting it forward suits us to a tee but I’m not sure he can stick to it
Consistenty is the key and I personally don’t think he can stick to it without falling back into his old waysLook we had a very good win against a side who on the day were awful to the point the towel and white flag went in.
Their keeper for me should have saved all four goals gifting two of them but fair do’s to us you still have to bag them.Another thing without Adeeko we looked far better in the middle, I’m sorry to say but he’s just not good enough so I tip my hat to Maloney for dropping him.
Rankine for me was motm he caused no end of problems. But let’s see if Maloney can keep the win train going and another 3pts next week.
His issue is consistency. He can’t seem to mirror a fine display the week after. We need a settled side and be on the front foot from the word go, none of this tippy tappy sh*t from the back width and go for itYep brilliant performance onwards and upwards, we should have bagged at least 2 more but not gonna grumble. I think their keeper will be distraught gifting 2 goals nightmare of a game.
And glad to see Horwich Utd matched our result
Against, signing on time for Evatt
I’ve always said, the first few games players are shagged saying “Not match fix yet”
Then some players get injured pushing too hard too early. Then those who weren’t “Match fit” string a few games together they become tired/over playedIs there ever a time when players are fit to go feel good match fit ??. This isn’t the first time we’ve brought players in who’ve spent most of their summer sunning it with a beer and a BigMac.
Wait till November December they’ll be dropping like flies
I mentioned that, would 3 or 4 experienced players actually make a difference when he tactically sets up the way he does ?.
There’s no way on this planet the majority of those players that have come to the club in the summer are Maloney targeted players.Most have little or no match day minutes under their belts and I just cannot see us watching reserve games hunting for 20 year old prospects.
I honestly can’t fathom it, Maloney might simply be a poor manager but right now he has an excuse “Those players are not the players I targeted”.If only he could sum up the will to play like we did at the end of last season were players were given licence to run with the ball, we might just shock a few sides but his belt & braces style of football doesn’t allow for that.
As it stands we need to get behind the manager and players it’s no one’s person fault it’s a combination of numerous owners and managers that have lead to this.
First of all we must understand this:-
There has to be a balancing of the books before there’s any kind of investment, that I totally understand and agree with. There are too many clubs sailing along that financial fine line were, if their owner suddenly decides enoughs enough and they put their wallet back in their pocket the club could potentially sink overnight.
Danson took over Latics with a huge Championship wage bill and a bunch of non performing players. He shouldered this cost for 12 months and I’m pretty much sure the money coming in did not go anywhere near to covering the wage bill and daily running cost of the club for the past 12 months.
Now you might think I’m a Danson arse licker, far from it I’m stating facts were all forgetting about. No one can deny that when the Bahraini Binmen screwed up you didn’t think like me “Were cooked here !” and 10th tier football was heading out way I for one thought it was lights out for us I truly did.
Danson hasn’t got to were he is with his companies been frithful and taking huge risks he is a shrewd businessman who I’m sure is someone who makes calculated risk not gambles that will always lean in his favor.
My gripe is, he will have analysed the daily running cost of the club so he would have been fully aware the amount of money it takes to keep us afloat and how much money he will need to invest (starting this summer) but sadly this has not come to fruition.
I’m not on about splash the cash like a Birmingham far from it I’m on about backing Maloney and allowing him to bring in one or two experienced players to help nurture this super young squad.
That has clearly not happened and Maloney has been left out to dry with what I can only describe as an u23 side in 1st team kit and average age of 23 for 30 players is an incredibly low average age for a side more like Crewe than Wigan, take out Lonegran and that average age drops even lower.
What annoys me is, Danson knew the risk before taking over, he went in with his eyes wide open knowing any football club ownership is a high risk investment and rarely do clubs at this level break even let alone make money.
I’m sure his financial experts went over the books with a fine tooth comb before purchased the club & stadium. It’s as though he’s bought a run down property, he’s priced up the cost of the refurbishment prior to purchase then after he’s bought it he’s changed his mind and thought na, put that on hold let’s just give it a lick of paint.
So why?,
Well my guess is and its nothing more than a guess that he first and formost wanted the stadium and why do I think this?,
Had we have gone into administration I’m sure there might of been a few other interested parties sniffing around simply because we would be sold for peanuts. A stadium and a club for a few million ?.
There’s more and more American investors out there looking for a play toy and I think Danson could have possibly ended up in potential bidding war with other potential buyers entised by the bargain bucket price (which he managed to achieve), no challengers, no competition here’s my price, accepted.
Then there’s my thought, could Danson stand the thought of been a Landlord with his rugby club playing the role of tenant ?, I’m not so sure he could stomach that.
Remember the time when Talal once tweeted about the seats shall we make them all blue ?. I’m sure that infuriated Danson knowing someone was calling the shots on the stadium I know if it was me I’d be proper p*ssed at that remark.
Another thing, if Danson had of wasted time buying the club and the adminstration team had of stepped in he would have had to have had to foot their huge bill. As we all know from our previous encounter, any administrator would always look at trying to sell both Latics and ground together and only split at a very last resort.
My final thoughts are,
Maloney’s had no doubt been promised one thing (I’m sure of that) and the rugby post have been moved this summer leaving him to scrimp around bringing in very young lads with little or no L1 experience in this unforgiving League all on budget weekly wage so as to fit in with Danson’s yearly budget.
So who’s to blame and were does that currently leave us?,
Maloney has to make it work, there’s no point moaning,face pulling, he has to get a tune out these lads regardless of how he’s been treated or were in deep trouble.
He proved it at Birmingham this is possible then destroys the excellent performance at Birmingham with a loss against a very poor Morecambe side.
As for Danson?, I think a good chunk of that Hughes’s money should have gone towards the wages for 2 or 3 experienced players definitely a midfielder and possibly a forward. Every club needs these experienced types of player on and off the field but what we have is a bunch of kids with little or no guidance from senior pros.
You can kind of see what Danson is after, he wants a load of young lads with some potential and an manager to perform miracles with them all, make them potential stars then sell-on for a huge profit using Hughes & Tickle as the template.
For that to happen there has to be and good scattering of experienced players within the squad to bring all these young lads through slowly not simply thrown in to the lions which is currently happening.
I can see both sides of the coin but I also feel Danson has not backed the manager promising one thing then giving him the total opposite for me letting Maloney down in the summer window. The wage budget whatever it may be has been set to an all time low making any kind of promotion challenge impossible.
I hope Maloney can pull this one off and at least keep us in L1 but for me i think he will struggle like hell. The tools he’s been given to complete the task are not of his choice nor are a fair few of the players up for the job but guys, we have to simply get behind them as hard as it may be we have no other choice.
To be honest it’s no one’s fault it’s a combination of 2 previous owners throwing the cash around, both huge mistakes along the way and the EFL for letting it happen.
I honestly think Maloney will crack under the pressure. His post match interviews are of a guy who’s totally frustrated and at times there uncomfortable to watch.His nervousness and frustration in front of camera is clearly there for all to see to the point that, at times he looks like he’s ready to explode, call Danson out then rip the mic off and shout “F*CK THIS!” I’m off.
My only gripe with Maloney is, his tactics which makes him at times he’s own worse enemy and he doesn’t help himself but he’ll always have the argument he wasn’t backed in the transfer market so again, is it Maloney’s tactics or Danson not backing him ? which do you point the finger at?. When I say that, would say 3-4 experienced players make a difference if we play his tactics ? again it’s questionable.
Oh the joys of been a Latics fans never fails to amaze me. The one thing I’ve noticed regardless of Maloney Danson or the players is, there’s a change in the whole atmosphere of the club. If feels clinically cold very them n us we’ve had one speech last week in 12 months and that’s it.
No future plans nothing, no long term plan mapped out it’s just hand to mouth football and the words should be changed to our famous song to:“Let’s hang in to what is left don’t let go boys there’s nothing left…..”
It’s simple, Maloney’s been stitched up. He had a list of targeted players right back from as far as January thinking the big earners have gone I’ll be able to bring a good few in.
Once the big earners all left he’s clearly been told no can do sorry change of plan and the Hughes money ? errrr sorry that’s mine thanks, club owes me
And it’s clear what Danson actually wants,
He wants Maloney to churne out 7-8 more Hughes’s and Tickles then flog them. Now he must do this with no experienced players to bring these young lads on. Danson wants Maloney to make these young lads all have world beaters and put a price ticket on all their heads.
It’s like a building site with only apprentices, no experienced skilled tradesmen to show them the ropes.
You have to have a healthy mix of young and old but our average age for the 30 man squad is 23 which is unbelievably young.
Maloney has been lied to, make to look stupid and expected to perform miracles with inexperienced kids.
Premiership ? I’ve a message for Goodburn:-
“You wanna buy some magic beans?”Who cares tbh it’s a fook off white elephant anyway. 3 rugby games a season it’s busy the rest fookin ghost town.
If we hit a purple patch and managed to actually push for the Prem ( dream I know) but if we did Danson would never be off the telly and the rugby?
It’s usual slot up north sport at its best.
As for Nandy ? She can get were p!ss can’t, she comes out once a year like a stuffed Guy Fawkes.I’ve said it before, it’s the devil and the deep blue sea.
I’m grateful Danson’s saved the day regardless of manager and players let’s be grateful.We’ve massively overspent that past few years and that wasted money needs to be repaid which leaves Maloney with an impossible task.
Our average age is 23 which is super super low and we lack 1 or 2 older heads especially in the middle but my biggest concern is,
Is Maloney the right man for the job. Tactically he’s hit n miss he’s never consistent with Jekyll & Hyde performances through his tenure.On one hand I think, fook me, I’m moaning here and had it have gone the other way we’d be jumping on the train to Daisy Hill away,
Then on the other hand I think,Fook me Mr Danson why take on a football club if your not going to invest a few bob especially after releasing all the big earners, you can’t take it with you pal.
Again I thought the timing of starting a women’s football team was wrong especially with our budget been one of the lowest in the division that’s money we could have used then start the womens football team next year.
I’ll be happy if we stop up this season when really we should be building a side for the big promotion push come 2025-26.
Next year 16 players are out of contract 6 loans 10 signed players. With such huge turn over every year it’s impossible to build. For the foreseeable future this is us whether we like it or not but if Danson thinks we’re building for them Prem ??
Wanna buy some magic beans Danson ??
I tend to agree with vinceHill I think his best years are behind him. He’s 64 soon and after the Newcastle job I thought he’d call it a day.
Let’s bare in mind, in alot of his appointments he’s had cash to spend, I think that might not be the case at Blackpool.
I’m not one for black cat, magpie, hocus pocus bollox but this is his 13th managerial jobThey opened one stand the West Stand then 2 turnstiles (4 traps) for everyone which was embarrassing. Who the f*cks idea was that?.
It was only when the queue went from Whelan’s Bar to the ticket office turnstiles they decided to open one more trap.
Floodlights were the same, parts of that first half looked like we were going to play in the dark. It was dark and they only fully turned them full on in the second half.
Were penny pinching on a grandular scale on and off the field and its showing big time. Staffing numbers are at an all time low and to be queuing for 15 minutes when there’s 1700 on is a joke.
And as for the football?, there’s a Maloney tactic been employed that’s not nice to watch and probably it’s even worse to play in.
basically its, keep the ball for as long as possible and if there is no 100% certain pass forward then keep possession do not give it away, either pass sideways or back but retain possession at all cost.
It’s a case of, if we have the ball you can’t score but as we found out last night opposing sides only need 1 chance or 1 mistake and they’ll punish you.
M.Smith? nearly everyone you speak to says the exact same thing, he needs to play higher up the pitch so for him not to do it he’s been instructed by the manager not to.
A number of times he tried to dink balls through from the edge of the box little daisy cutters and you could see what he was trying to do but sadly he spent the vast majority of the evening bringing the ball out 6″ in front of Sibbik and Aimson, an absolute waste.
This negative slow passing back sideways build up play tactic breeds fear within the players, the fear not to give it away which inturn means the players are scared to take chances say a forward pass they prefer to turn back and start all over again.
Our players constantly take the easy option out pass sideways and back making sure they retain possession at all cost even if it means not going forward the do all and end all of Maloneys footballing handbook.
Stones? honestly I feel for this lad, he’s trying far far too hard but no matter what he does he’s not a chance and breaking into the starting line up under Maloney who clearly doesn’t fancy him.
Bringing him off on 51 minutes was for me disrespectful on the lad in a p!ss arse trophy I mean, other than this Cup when will he get another chance and is Hugill any better ? sadly Hugills no better employed as hold up guys which for lads so young it’s comical.
Stones for me is a box player not a half way line target man, if used correctly I’m sure he’d get goals but under Maloney he has zero chance.I’m sure any half decent manager would get a tune out this side, and the sooner Maloney’s gone the better. If we don’t?, I’m afraid the rot will set in and there’ll be no coming back from it,
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Danson is penny pinching, he’ll not get rid. He’d sooner watch us struggle and possibly go down rather than pay him off. Cut off your nose to spite your face comes to mind.Our players need more freedom, risk taker, rather than pass pass pass. Players need to run more with the ball like McManaman did which worked time after time but to no avail (no one in the box)
The club feels empty,the team look fed up and the fans have seen enough, sadly as much as I would love to see it happen for Maloney and it clicks but sadly it’s not and changes need to be made now or we will suffer this season
I watched his post match interview and the way he conducts himself is so uncomfortable I cringe it’s a painful watch.
Again, after a excellent performance against Birmingham were met with the same old regurgitation of possession go back football.So one point were 1-2 down, 4 players make a run all were onside and what does Aimson do ? well he never even looked up tbh he simply passed back/side, all 4 players stop like the Road Runner in their tracks. It showed which way he’s been coached,
Pass left right back and try to move the opposition side to side
Totally failed but we kept doing it in the end Aimson turned into a left winger out of pure frustration.McManaman showed at times how it’s done, just be brave, take a man on, always look forward look to get in behind.
Now lots call Stones saying he’s not good enough I’m not sure how they can come to that conclusion because he rarely plays more than an hour.Maloney drags him off on 51 even though he basically he had nothing to go at bar the odd 50 harder over the top ball.
Hugill suffered the same shit when he came on and if anyone tells me Hugills any better than I’ll eat my hat.
This possession, keep passing till space appears does not work for us. Maloney is clearly out his depth and if I were Danson I’d get shut right now while everything’s still new.
Tactically Maloney is poor and normally like Saturday he just keeps
subbing. It’s like Stevie Wonder doing a rubic cube, do it long enough eventually you’ll get lucky.It’s simple,
Move it quicker
Think forward first
Aim for players making the runs
More players prepared to use the dying art of take the opposition onIt’s poor awful to watch and when a side lying bottom in the country easily sit back and soak it up you have major issues
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