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  • in reply to: Goode #202993
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      But a strange remark from Maloney which hints to a bust up, quote:-

      “Wigan manager Shaun Maloney said: “Charlie is not in contention at the moment; he’s gone back to Brentford.”
      He has been so for him to suddenly not be means some handbag swinging has took place

      in reply to: Goode #202991
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        It’s official, he’s gone back but it doesn’t say why. Again, I wasn’t impressed with him, we leaked an awful lot of goals when he started a game.

        If it was a bust up then there’ll be zero chance of him coming back for next season, plus he’s out of contract in the summer with Brentford.

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        in reply to: That’s better…. #202989
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          Just a thought here,
          It took Michael Eisner owner at Portsmouth 7 years to achieve what they did last night gaining promotion so to those who think it will take a us a year or two better rethink that one. I predict us be challenging hopefully 2025-2026 but I’m not holding my breath

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            His mammoth task won’t be helped if Anthony Patterson Sunderland’s young keeper goes to Liverpool because I’m sure Sunderland will be banging Maloney’s office door off the hinges for Tickle.
            Then there’s Hughes, someone like a Pompey or Derby would def take a chance with a big sell-on % therefore get him cheaper.

            I know one thing, it’s going to be a crazy summer that’s for sure

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            in reply to: That’s better…. #202981
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              I totally agree runcorn, or Danson goes chequebook barmy which is not going to happen.
              The problem we have is building a squad. Maloney needs to sign players not just loans and short contracts and as we all know that comes at a price, players don’t do zero hours.

              He has to sign so their here for at least 2 years or how can he build if every year 12-14 players are moving on ?

              Maloney has to find players, cheap and decent but there’s so many other clubs after the exact same thing

              We certainly don’t want over the hill players carrying a full to the brim medical journal and their last big pay day like we currently have now.

              Maloney’s budget will not be signing on fee money it will be wages which inturn makes his job very very difficult finding the right player/s.

              Were gonna need an awful lot of luck in the transfer market. I also think we should to tap into other areas and dip our toe into non-league and say the Irish League and make calculated gambles on up and coming young players.

              I know one thing, I wouldn’t like Maloney’s job and the pressure that will come with it in June
              Good luck to the guy he’ll need it

              in reply to: That’s better…. #202975
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                Let’s hope he reads CW’s post then !!!

                If he needs to read my post to sort out onfield problems out then we are well and truly in the sh!t and he’s def not the man for the job.

                In his last few interviews he has admitted that we do struggle against the lesser out of form sides so at least he acknowledges it which is a starters for 10.
                The hard bit will be how he goes about rectifying it. Granted I understand it’s hard to ask players to play a system against say a Lincoln then play the opposite against a Burton but I’m afraid after what we’ve been through this season I’m afraid is the only way

                Adapt to each opponent

                in reply to: That’s better…. #202971
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                  Like I said, I never caught the whole game but there’s a few things I noticed from just watching the J.Smith goal:-

                  Lincoln had 5 men in our half on a high press when we started the passing movement that led to the goal, that was based the limited highlights there was, I’m sure there was a few more passes.

                  There was 11 passes before J.Smith scored
                  Only 4 went backwards
                  And 4 passes were 1 touch passes straight through the heart of the midfield.
                  There was no rolling the ball with the top of the studs followed by a 40 yard Hughes Hail Mary

                  And why did this work ?
                  Simple
                  Lincoln high pressed and wanted to win the game. If they win the ball in the last 3rd their instantly on the offensive.

                  Most of this season the lower / poorer sides just dug their heels in deep the counter attacked and Maloney stuck with the same plan “out it from the back” when the opposition simply watched on in their half not biting.

                  For me L1 is the “No Mans Land League”. It’s were some decent size clubs fall foul of dropping out the a Championship followed by a mass clearout of high earning players. They are normally clubs who truly shouldn’t be in League One let’s say the likes of Ipswich, Leeds Sheff Utd just to name a few.

                  Then you might get a non-league side hitting the heights making it to L1 after a few seasons and the only way they can survive is to dig is not by playing it out from the back they revert to digging their heels in and spoiling you into submission.

                  And this exactly why Maloney needs to adapt our tactics game by game.

                  You cannot play the same way against a Burton that won’t press and wave an invasion card from their half as apposed to say an inform Lincoln who high press, try and win the ballup the field and are out to the game from the off.

                  Maloney needs a plan B so when the lesser/poorer sides decide to put the onus on us to come at them we can take advantage and implement plan B and plan A is for another day.

                  It’s as clear as day to you and me and has been all season and for me has cost us a play off spot.

                  I’m not sure why Maloney insist on instructing the players to roll it around the back, dangling the carrot hoping the opposition will take the bait when their clearly not interested in coming for it.

                  That for me is Maloney’s achilles heel, hes adopted the Martinez style. Now that might be fine at a higher level were you don’t have as many dig your heels in sides but like I pointed out, in L1 its chalk and cheese from the top sides to bottom sides hence which we e found out.

                  If Maloney gets the backing from Danson and he brings in the right type of all round player and he can adapt his tactics to suit the opposition then he has a very good chance of taking us out this league.

                  Will this happen next season ? footballing heart says We’ll p*ss it
                  Footballing head says 2- 3 seasons before were anywere near.

                  This is the dilemma, will he get the time and funds ?. In our case which is like no other Maloney has to be given alot longer simply because of his first year clearout of the big earners and transfer embargo.

                  I keep repeating myself (sorry) I’m not hear to slate him I really want him to do well I truly do, who doesn’t !! but he cannot keep implementing the one style of play especially in this league, it clearly does not work

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                  in reply to: That’s better…. #202967
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                    I only saw dribs & drabs but what I saw it was an improved performance.

                    While we’ve nothing to play for I’ll be cheering Derby home in their 2 games then I’ll hopefully be swapping over to been a temp Oxford fan

                    in reply to: Steve Bruce at the game #202951
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                      Ladbrokes have just givin me 2/9 on it’s not Magennis

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                        Well we’ve launched the new “Fund the Academy” scheme so that might get used to pay for Stevie’s new Range Rover.

                        The club’s after £216 on top of my season ticket renewal ?, It’s a good idea in theory for those who have it

                        in reply to: Steve Bruce at the game #202947
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                          Jesus, he’ll be on par with Darren Ferguson at Peterborough how many times 1 club can employ you.

                          It wouldn’t surprise in the least if he’s linked some kind of Director of Football type roll and the CEO’s job remains a part time dual roll number.

                          Pure guess but it’s a long way and wrong game to come for a reunion and play the good ole times number

                          in reply to: That, this afternoon… #202937
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                            I know it’s end of season syndrome and none of our players give a fook cause we’re safe but this style and brand of football has been going on for most of the season when we weren’t safe.

                            Against the better sides in the League it works but against the lesser sides who tend to play 10 men behind the ball and counter it’s about as useless as rice paper toilet roll.

                            Maloney needs to adapt when teams do this and if he sticks with midfield joining defense and 20 passes to get to the half way line then I’m afraid history will repeat itself next season regardless of any new players.

                            Me?, I keep saying it, I want him to do well prove us all wrong that he’s the right man for us but he will have to do better next season to convince the growing army of doubters.

                            in reply to: That, this afternoon… #202932
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                              I would just like to point out something small I spotted yesterday but to me it was significant as to why things are so wrong at the moment,

                              There’s 93.20minutes on the clock it’s 0-0 and Goode receives the ball from Tickle, firstly why?,

                              And again their lies the problem with us,

                              Tickle should be waving his arms for everyone to get up top then hoof a Hail Mary with 30seconds to go you just never know.

                              But no, he gives the ball to Goode,

                              Goode then looks left looks right rolls the ball with his studs then another quick look then suddenly he then sees a Port Vale player 5 yards away offering no threat, he inturn sh!ts himself so he decides to slowly passes the ball sideways,

                              Ref blows for fulltime

                              Would we have scored wacking it upfield with 40seconds to go ? probably not but I know one thing you won’t know unless you try.

                              So if Tickle doesn’t hoof it Goode a so called experienced centre half should be barking at everyone to get up top then wack it you just never know.

                              That for me sums up Latics at the moment playing a certain way to the letter of the law and players not thinking off the cuff. We were happy to take a point rather than give it one last punt.
                              Again I’m confused
                              Is that the fault of the manager or the fault of both Tickle and Goode ?

                              There was at least 20 people sat near me screaming for Goode to launch it,

                              If we can see it why can’t Goode and the manager not ?

                              in reply to: That, this afternoon… #202926
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                                We need a CEO and we need one yesterday,
                                Ben Goodburn jobsharing is no good to anyone. We need a plan of attack manager CEO and owner. Without a CEO devoted to the football we will struggle with the lack of comms

                                We then need to sign players so we can build a team to challenge over the next two year period. Loanees and short 6-12 month deals are fine but it does more harm than good because by the time they’ve settled in their gone and all the good works undone again.

                                As fans we also need to be entertained. What we are currently been served up a style of football that will doing nothing more than push fans away.

                                Fingers crossed there is a plan in the making for next season, hopefully we’ll have our own CEO and we sign a few decent players and we end up building an exciting team and a style that puts more bums on seats.

                                But I know one thing, it cannot carry on the way it’s currently going on and off the field, meandering aimlessly not knowing who we are or were were going while fans are served up Tramadol football.

                                Things have to change, let’s get this season out the way, clear the decks and get the big earners out and hopefully things will start to improve.

                                I just hope Maloney can get it right next season because once he builds “his” own team he’ll have no excuses. I think we just have to write the next few games off no matter how much it hurts and lets start the new season with a clean slate so come June things will look alot brighter for us.

                                Thank God we are playing for nothing in our next few games because if we were we’d be fooked good style

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                                in reply to: That, this afternoon… #202913
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                                  Difficult that today, very difficult against another struggling side. For me a good few players out there looked like their all counting down their holidays in the sun. Even though Shaw only did 12 minutes he proceeded to give away foul after foul and a yellow.

                                  It must be hard to motivate yourself when you’ve nothing to play for and you probably already know your fates sealed and your not going to be here next season.

                                  So firstly:-

                                  Aasgaard

                                  There’s no way we should ever play without a forward when there’s at least one forward available, Kelmans there use him. If not try Cze there but for me definitely not Aasgaard.
                                  I bet he was as shocked as us to find himself in what I’d class as a forward role’ish but tbh I’ve still not a clue were he was actually told to play.

                                  S.Smith?
                                  Was he a rightback in a 5 or was he playing as a wingback ? I’m still baffled as he did more defending than pushing up.

                                  If he was actually a wingback Smith confirmed to us today he isn’t one. Defend? yes, midfielder ? Yes but up and and down the wing overlapping whip the odd ball in? Oh my God no ! what the hell was Maloney thinking ?.

                                  Adeeko?

                                  For me he’s simply not good enough but for some unknown reason he’s first on the team sheet week in week out. It’s a whole lot of nothing for 90 minutes, he’s gets about but offers very little on the attacking or defending front.You never hear anyone mention him after a game whether it’s good or bad and why? because he does nothing to praise or either criticise.

                                  But the one huge thing I don’t understand is the insessive passing back whenever an opposition player gets within 3 yards of one of our players. They look scared to death of making a mistake if they take a player on or a simple pass forward it’s at times mind boggling.

                                  Our players are either told to pass pass pass back and sidewards or they simply don’t have the ability to either run with the ball or move find space then pass to to up field I truly don’t know why the hell we insist on 20 passes to get to the halfway line.

                                  McManaman?

                                  I’ll have to disagree with some people on this one. I still think he has a part to play but one of them is not starting a game, he’s an impact player.
                                  He’s at his best coming on late in a game going through tired players something he’s done a few times and totally changed games plus chipping in with the odd goal to. For me that’s the managers fault for starting him not McManaman’s.

                                  There’s no harm in him losing a yard of pace as he’s got older that’s understandable but if he can still contribute when coming on late especially at this level for me he still has a big part to play at Wigan even if its for only for one more season then I’m all for him stopping for another season.

                                  But from what I can see I can only describe it by saying Maloneys trying to make 5 star Michelin food from 2 tins a beans and a tin of rice pudding.
                                  The players look like they cannot or don’t want to play in his system and don’t understand what their jobs are. Then every game Maloney rips the book up changing 5-6 players a sign he’s in the dark clutching for some straws.

                                  We are not Man City or Arsenal, we don’t have the quality of player to make even a futile effort to be anything that resembles City with no forward but SM insists on trying today and his plans failed miserably once again.

                                  And that sums us up.

                                  Were a side been led by the captain of the ship with no rudder, no map and no compass and with absolutely no idea were were going .

                                  Looking at the players body language today there doesn’t seem to be an ounce of team spirit left especially with only a handful of players been guaranteed to be here next season.

                                  Danson needs to sit down and seriously look at how we go forward. Is he prepared to hand over money to a blind manager who cannot see wrong that’s up to him but if it were me? I’m sorry he’d have to go.

                                  Danson needs to decide
                                  Is it the players?
                                  Is it the manager ?

                                  Shame really but Maloney would have to go simply because that’s the nature of the beast the buck stops at his door and it’s what’s best for the club

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